❓ Ms Walker questions Attorney General McGinty about speeches provided by lobbyists, specifically Doug Solomon, regarding finance brokers. McGinty defends his actions, stating he used diverse sources and Solomon acted pro bono.
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ATTORNEY GENERAL - SPEECHES PROVIDED BY LOBBYISTS
Welcome back from holidays, Attorney General. You do not look very refreshed. Recently we have heard revelations from Mr Doug Solomon that the Attorney General read verbatim into this Parliament the speech notes regarding the finance brokers issue that were provided to him by Mr Solomon as a lobbyist. (1) Can the Attorney General confirm that is the case? (2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY
Welcome back from holidays, Attorney General. You do not look very refreshed. Recently we have heard revelations from Mr Doug Solomon that the Attorney General read verbatim into this Parliament the speech notes regarding the finance brokers issue that were provided to him by Mr Solomon as a lobbyist. (1) Can the Attorney General confirm that is the case? (2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY
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(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(1) Can the Attorney General confirm that is the case? (2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(1) Can the Attorney General confirm that is the case? (2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(2) On how many other occasions has the Attorney General read speeches in this Parliament that were provided by lobbyists? (3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(3) Given that these revelations come on top of the massive failings of the Attorney General in his portfolios, why should the Attorney General keep his job? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
(1)-(3) I thank the member for the question. When the former Premier, Geoff Gallop, gave me responsibility for the consumer affairs portfolio in mid to late 2009 - Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr R.F. Johnson : 2009! You are getting ahead of yourself! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I am. From mid to late 1999 until the last occasion on which I raised the finance brokers issue in Parliament when I was in opposition, which was on 14 November 2000, the issue of finance brokers and the failings of the then Liberal government had been raised on 38 separate days. Over the course of just over a year, either by means of moving a matter of public interest, asking a question or during debate on particular bills that were before the Parliament, I raised the question of finance brokers every second sitting day from 17 August 1999 to 14 November 2000. Not only did I raise that issue on every second sitting day, but also the sources of information upon which I relied were diverse. My primary source of information was Denise Brailey, who is well known to most members of this place as the consumer advocate who brought this issue to public prominence in the first place. I also received information from Doug Solomon and from - Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : He is a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, he is a lawyer. Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : You can be a lawyer and a lobbyist. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will come to that. I also received a lot of information from the victims of the finance broking scandal. I met many of them in their own homes and a number of them visited my electorate office and gave me information. What we did from August 1999 to November 2000 is a very good illustration of what a good opposition is. Every second day that we came in here we took Doug Shave to task. He lost his seat in the subsequent election, substantially as a result of the work that we did, and because of his failings as a minister. I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
I also received information from other sources. Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Ms S.E. Walker : Did you credit them as well? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did credit Doug Solomon. Let me read an extract from Hansard . This is me speaking - I know better than most people in this house what went on in the finance broking scandal in the 1990s. I met with a large number of the investors. I worked very closely with Denise Brailey and Doug Solomon. Those members who were in the house during the late 1990s will remember vividly that almost every week another scandalous case was brought to the attention of the Western Australian public through this house. Mr T. Buswell : When was that? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Last year, before this issue was raised and became public. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I give that as one example of where I constantly acknowledged the role of Doug Solomon in providing assistance. However, it was not just Doug Solomon; it was a range of other people as well. Let me make this point. What is at stake here is really a question of motivation. There was no party powerbroker writing speeches for me; there was no commercial interest writing speeches for me - that is, people who stood to gain. Doug Solomon at that stage was acting on a pro bono basis. Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr T. Buswell : How many speeches did you have written for you? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I wrote the overwhelming bulk of them myself. Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr T. Buswell : You just said that people were writing speeches for you! Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : No, I did not. Listen to what I am saying. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I did what is required of a good opposition - that is, do its homework, get information from various sources, and be able to bring that information into the house - for the very simple reason that my motivation was to see justice done for the thousands of finance brokers’ victims whom the former government had turned its back on. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the member for Nedlands to order for the first time. Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : It really comes down to a question of motivation. My motivation was to look after the interests of those thousands of Western Australians, mainly elderly, who were being done over by finance brokers, with their connections with the Liberal Party, including the brother of the Premier of the day, who was one of them, and who was rightly castigated in this house for what he did. It resulted in Doug Shave losing his seat. On occasions, Doug Solomon provided me with very comprehensive notes. On other occasions, it was material that I gleaned from the victims themselves. I brought all that information into the house. My motivation was - unlike the members of the Liberal Party - not to support a powerbroker, and not to support a private commercial interest from a lobbyist, but to look after these people whose interests were being neglected by the former government.
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