❓ Hon Peter Collier asks about financial incentives for employers taking on competency-based apprentices in the building sector. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich responds by highlighting existing subsidies available through the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund (BCITF) and criticizes the federal government's apprenticeship scheme.
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BUILDING INDUSTRY - COMPETENCY-BASED APPRENTICESHIPS
I refer to the reforms of the training sector being considered by the government. (1) With the move toward competency-based apprenticeships in the building sector, will the minister consider financial incentives for employers, either direct upon training completion or via tax concessions, to offset the considerable costs of apprenticeship training? (2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
I refer to the reforms of the training sector being considered by the government. (1) With the move toward competency-based apprenticeships in the building sector, will the minister consider financial incentives for employers, either direct upon training completion or via tax concessions, to offset the considerable costs of apprenticeship training? (2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(1) With the move toward competency-based apprenticeships in the building sector, will the minister consider financial incentives for employers, either direct upon training completion or via tax concessions, to offset the considerable costs of apprenticeship training? (2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(1) With the move toward competency-based apprenticeships in the building sector, will the minister consider financial incentives for employers, either direct upon training completion or via tax concessions, to offset the considerable costs of apprenticeship training? (2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(2) If so, will the minister detail these proposed concessions; and, if not, why not? (3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(3) If no to (1), why not? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President - Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Graham Giffard : I wondered where my dorothy dixer got to. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is absolutely correct. Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President, because of the number of times I have spoken about the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund and Levy Collection Act 1990, I am amazed that the honourable member opposite still has no idea what it is about or what it does. Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : That’s because you go on about it and nobody listens. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I think the Leader of the Opposition has bigger problems to concentrate on, and if I were him I would start doing a bit of counting. Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : I am just worried about you doing your job for which you get a very large salary and nobody listens to you anymore. That is why they don’t know what you are talking about. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should not worry about me; he should start doing some counting. I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
I am very happy to provide a response to this question. (1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
(1)-(3) The member is obviously not aware of the great work of the Building and Construction Industry Training Fund established by the Labor government in the early 1990s. Employers in the building and construction industry in Western Australia currently have the ability to receive $9 000 in subsidies from the BCITF to assist with the cost of employing an apprentice. In addition, these employers can also obtain - Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon Norman Moore : But where does the money come from? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This is very important and I ask the Leader of the Opposition to pay some attention. In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
In addition, these employers can also obtain $4 000 from the federal government’s new apprenticeship scheme. However, the Howard government taxes that subsidy at the company tax rate of 30 per cent. Therefore, while the Howard government gives the $4 000 subsidy, it takes back - can members believe this? - $3 900 in tax. The Howard government’s net contribution, therefore, is a total of $100. This is at a time of a skills shortage. Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
Mr President, I actually wrote to Hon Brendan Nelson, the former Minister for Education, Science and Training, and explained to him that this was really not good enough from the federal government, particularly given that we as a state contribute something like 40 per cent to gross domestic product of this nation. I said that surely he could help us out in this regard and surely he could go off and talk to the Australian Taxation Office and make sure that that $4 000 that he put in actually counts and actually makes a difference. Do members know what he said? He said that he was sorry; he could not do. Not only could he not do, he was not even interested to try.
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