Question regarding TAB losses related to the Craig Rosendorff betting scandal and the extent of insurance coverage. The Minister deflects, citing decisions made by the previous government and commercial confidentiality.

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28 June 2006
Portfolio
Racing and Gaming

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CRAIG ROSENDORFF - TAB LOSSES
I have in my possession a briefing note on the Craig Rosendorff betting scandal from the Totalisator Agency Board dated November 2002, which was provided to the minister’s predecessor. It indicates that the TAB has insurance that will meet about two-thirds of any damages that may be awarded to Mr Rosendorff. It goes on to say that in a worst case scenario, if Rosendorff were to win and be awarded $6 million in damages and costs, the TAB would have to meet about $2 million. In light of these revelations - (1) Can the minister confirm that the Totalisator Agency Board is covered by the Insurance Commission of Western Australia? (2) Why will the minister not tell us how much Racing and Wagering Western Australia has paid out to Mr Rosendorff? (3) How much of this amount was covered by the TAB’s insurance? Mr M. McGOWAN

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(1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
(1) Can the minister confirm that the Totalisator Agency Board is covered by the Insurance Commission of Western Australia? (2) Why will the minister not tell us how much Racing and Wagering Western Australia has paid out to Mr Rosendorff? (3) How much of this amount was covered by the TAB’s insurance? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
(2) Why will the minister not tell us how much Racing and Wagering Western Australia has paid out to Mr Rosendorff? (3) How much of this amount was covered by the TAB’s insurance? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
(3) How much of this amount was covered by the TAB’s insurance? Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
Mr M. McGOWAN replied: (1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
(1)-(3) The premise of the question from the member for South Perth is that, somehow, the government is doing something wrong; somehow, it is up to no good on this matter. The truth of the matter is that all the events that the member for South Perth is referring to took place during a time when a range of members sitting opposite were in government and were in cabinet. Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, members on my left! Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
Several members interjected. The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order, member for Carine! Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
Mr T. Buswell : Rubbish! The payment has been made. Is that the best answer you have? The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
The DEPUTY SPEAKER : Order! The last time I looked, that is not the correct way to seek an answer. Do not try it again. I call the member to order. Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
Mr M. McGOWAN : If the member for South Perth has any significant concerns about the behaviour of the last government, he should ask Hon Max Evans. As I said yesterday, the board of Racing and Wagering Western Australia has made a decision on this matter. It has the right, as is guaranteed by the law of this state, to make that decision. It received some legal advice on the decision. It made the decision based on commercial grounds as it examined it. It is not the practice of this place for members to release those sorts of pieces of legal advice upon which matters are settled. It is also the case that people often undertake commercial decisions not based on the fact that they think they will lose a particular case, but based on the fact that that is the simplest and most straightforward way of resolving an issue. That happens every single day in commercial discussions among people in the broader community. The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.
The member for South Perth can wave around these sorts of secret documents and whatever. I am unaware of this briefing note. Frankly, he is attempting to make a huge issue out of something that took place when his party was in power. He should go and ask those people.

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