Question regarding timber power pole supply to Western Power, costs, future availability, and government policy on their use. The Minister's answer clarifies the supply chain and addresses concerns about phasing out timber poles.

AnsweredQoN 184Legislative Council
Asked
2 April 2004
Portfolio
Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries

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(1) How many timber power poles were or have been - (a) requested by; and/or (b) supplied to Western Power in each of the years 2001-02, 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06? (2) What was the average cost to Western Power per pole in each of those years? (3) What is the projected availability of wooden poles annually up to the year 2010? (4) Has the department been advised that it is the intention of this Labor Government to phase out the use of sustainable and environmentally positive timber power poles as soon as practicable; and, if so, what is the target date for this intention? Hon KIM CHANCE

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I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
(b) supplied to Western Power in each of the years 2001-02, 2002-03, 2003-04, 2004-05, 2005-06?
(3) What is the projected availability of wooden poles annually up to the year 2010? (4) Has the department been advised that it is the intention of this Labor Government to phase out the use of sustainable and environmentally positive timber power poles as soon as practicable; and, if so, what is the target date for this intention? Hon KIM CHANCE replied : I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
(4) Has the department been advised that it is the intention of this Labor Government to phase out the use of sustainable and environmentally positive timber power poles as soon as practicable; and, if so, what is the target date for this intention? Hon KIM CHANCE replied : I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
Hon KIM CHANCE replied : I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. (1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
(1)-(2) The Forest Products Commission does not deal directly with Western Power for the supply of wooden power poles. The FPC sells logs considered suitable for the production of wooden poles to a pole supplier under a contract of sale. The sales are in terms of volume rather than the number of poles. The supplier then treats the logs as necessary and sells the poles to its customers, including Western Power. Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
Hon Bill Stretch interjected. The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
The PRESIDENT: Order! The minister will proceed with the answer. Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
Hon KIM CHANCE: When the member studies the answer, it will become apparent. Apart from Western Power, the supplier may sell poles to various customers for uses such as bridge or jetty construction or as building poles. The specifications for these various products may differ and the total price charged will include the supplier’s costs as well as the log price paid to the FPC. I think that answers the member’s supplementary question. Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that. (3) A portion of nearly all logs suitable for wooden poles consists of timber that meets the specification for first or second-grade sawlogs. Due to the commitment of the available jarrah and karri sawlog yield to the high value furniture, flooring and joinery industries in Western Australia, it is anticipated that the availability of native hardwood poles for most of the period to 2010 will be negligible. The Forest Products Commission has also provided pine logs for the production of wooden poles in recent years and there is no reason that this cannot continue within the limitations of the FPC’s commitments to other customers, including those with state agreement Acts. (4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.
Due to this indirect relationship, it is not possible for the Forest Products Commission to provide information on the number or cost of poles requested or purchased by Western Power in recent years. I suggest this part of the question be directed to the Minister for Energy, who I think would be able to answer that.
(4) There is no government strategy to phase out the use of timber power poles. The unavailability of wooden poles from native species has arisen as a result of the priority this Government has given to using native timbers for end uses that highlight the special properties of our native hardwood timbers and provide maximum value to Western Australia.

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