Question concerns the impact of workplace relations legislation on the tourism industry, with the minister responding defensively by referencing the previous government's record and engaging in personal attacks.

AnsweredQoN 189Legislative Assembly
Asked
25 September 2002
Portfolio
Tourism

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I refer the minister to comments made by the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia recently attributing the tourism crisis in this State to the Government’s unwillingness to listen and stating that Labor’s workplace relations legislation was a blow to the tourism industry and would lead to additional closures and a rise in unemployment. (1) Did the minister have the forethought at any stage to discuss the impact of his Government’s workplace relations legislation on the tourism industry with his colleague the Minister for Consumer and Employment Protection? (2) Will the minister concede that increases in casual and out-of-hours pay rates for employees, particularly for young people, are starting to hurt the tourism industry? (3) Will the minister take firm action on any of the 10 recommendations put forward by the Tourism Council to assist in rebuilding the tourism industry; and, if so, which recommendations? Mr C.M. BROWN

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(1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
(1) Did the minister have the forethought at any stage to discuss the impact of his Government’s workplace relations legislation on the tourism industry with his colleague the Minister for Consumer and Employment Protection? (2) Will the minister concede that increases in casual and out-of-hours pay rates for employees, particularly for young people, are starting to hurt the tourism industry? (3) Will the minister take firm action on any of the 10 recommendations put forward by the Tourism Council to assist in rebuilding the tourism industry; and, if so, which recommendations? Mr C.M. BROWN replied: (1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
(2) Will the minister concede that increases in casual and out-of-hours pay rates for employees, particularly for young people, are starting to hurt the tourism industry? (3) Will the minister take firm action on any of the 10 recommendations put forward by the Tourism Council to assist in rebuilding the tourism industry; and, if so, which recommendations? Mr C.M. BROWN replied: (1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
(3) Will the minister take firm action on any of the 10 recommendations put forward by the Tourism Council to assist in rebuilding the tourism industry; and, if so, which recommendations? Mr C.M. BROWN replied: (1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN replied: (1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
(1)-(3) I regularly meet with the Tourism Council Western Australia. From memory, I attended its council meeting about three or four weeks ago. My parliamentary secretary, Hon Ken Travers, regularly meets with the tourism industry and particularly with the President of the Tourism Council Western Australia, Mr Manny Papadoulis, on a regular basis. I have many contacts with the industry. On the weekend I was privileged to be in Harvey with two opposition members to celebrate the opening of the shrine at the internment camp. Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr R.F. Johnson: Are you going to answer the question? Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: Patience is a virtue. The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
The next issue concerns the impact of the changes to the labour relations system. I am a bit puzzled by this question, because when the previous Government introduced its workplace agreements legislation, it told the people of Western Australia that it would not lead to people being paid less than award conditions. Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: No. That is what it said. In 1993, that lot over there said that no worker would be worse off in comparison with award conditions. That is what the Opposition said. It went to the election and said that it would introduce legislation to provide flexibility and that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. Did that happen? Does the question from the member for Nedlands mean that candidates at the 1993 election did not tell the truth? The Opposition said at the 1993 election that not one worker would be worse off compared with conditions in the award. The imputation of the question from the member for Nedlands is that people are worse off compared with conditions in the award. I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
I am a bit befuddled by the question because the former ministers for labour in the Court Government consistently came into this place and said that people would not be worse off. I am therefore confused by the question because it appears that what we were told in the last Parliament has not turned out to be true. I do not know whether it is true, but I am interested that the member for Nedlands believes that the coalition’s workplace agreements legislation lowered wages and conditions below those contained in the award. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: I must say one thing about the member for Nedlands: she asks a question and then never shuts up during the answer! She is the only member in this place who breathes through her feet! I do not know whether it is a personal trait, but it would be helpful if she were to be quiet for one moment. All I can say is that the Government has been a strong advocate on behalf of the tourism industry. Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Ms S.E. Walker: Those in the tourism industry don’t know it. Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: Let us have a look at the Court Government’s record. Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Ms S.E. Walker: You are in government. What are you doing? Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: Here she goes again, yakety, yakety, yakety-yak. Boy, oh boy! She still thinks she is in court with a hapless person in the witness box. Things have changed; she is not there. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
Mr C.M. BROWN: She cannot browbeat members in this place. She actually has to be quiet. I like the Opposition when it comes into this place and asks what the Government is doing about funding visitor centres. Who cut off the money for visitor centres? The Opposition did. It then comes into this place and asks what we are doing about it. I am sorry, but it is a bit late; it all happened when the Opposition was in power. Point of Order Mr J.H.D. DAY: Mr Speaker, it is well understood that the minister is required to give an answer that is relevant to the question and not engage in personal abuse. The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.
The SPEAKER: The minister must, in fact, give an answer that is relevant. It is also a fact that interjections are disorderly and members persist in interjecting, which extends the answers from ministers and in many cases assists in directing answers away from the questions that were asked. I am sure the minister is about to finish his answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr C.M. BROWN: I will finish on the basis that a previous Speaker of this Parliament, Hon Jim Clarko, the former member for Karrinyup in the Court coalition Government, is now the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association. I was very pleased to attend the Heartlands awards and I was very pleased when the President of the Heartlands Tourism Association said to me that the tourism policy that Labor took to the election was the best tourism policy that the Government had taken to an election.

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