❓ Mr. Logan questions the Minister's commitment to keeping WA TAFE under state control, given the transfer of apprentice support services to the Commonwealth. The Minister assures the house that WA TAFE will remain under state management and that other states agree.
AnsweredQoN 757Legislative Assembly
QuestionView source ↗
TAFE
SECTOR — STATE MANAGEMENT
757. Mr F.M. LOGAN to the Minister for
Training and Workforce Development:
I have a supplementary question.
Given what the minister has just said to the house, she has already handed over
group training in Western Australia to the commonwealth and she has sacked all
the staff at WA's apprentice centres and given over their work to the
federal government as well. Why would we trust the minister not to hand over WA
TAFE to the Feds, given what she has already done?
SECTOR — STATE MANAGEMENT
757. Mr F.M. LOGAN to the Minister for
Training and Workforce Development:
I have a supplementary question.
Given what the minister has just said to the house, she has already handed over
group training in Western Australia to the commonwealth and she has sacked all
the staff at WA's apprentice centres and given over their work to the
federal government as well. Why would we trust the minister not to hand over WA
TAFE to the Feds, given what she has already done?
AnswerView source ↗
The member for Cockburn is referring
to the change in the way we provide apprentice support in the federal —
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : We had to ask ourselves what the sensible thing to do was. If
the commonwealth government says it has money and wants to take over the
mentoring services and some of the support services for apprentices and is
happy to fund that service, does the state government then run a duplicate
service or do we hand over that service? Apprentices in Western Australia are being
managed through a contract system coordinated from Canberra, but the important
thing is that the quality of the support services being provided to apprentices
is still there, is still very high and, in effect, member for Cockburn, a large
number of the people who were previously employed by the state government in
our present support centres have been re-employed by the commonwealth
providers, so we have the same people performing those services.
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn!
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : I have had no complaints about the transition from a
state-based apprenticeship support system to the commonwealth-based system, but
I reiterate that we are not handing over the management of our TAFE system to
the commonwealth and neither will the commonwealth be providing traineeships or
any form of training in Western Australia through our TAFE system.
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I call you to order for the first time.
Minister, are you finished?
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : The commonwealth comes up with these ideas and floats them,
but without the agreement of all the states it will not happen. I can assure
the house that I have had a number of conversations with my counterparts in
other states and they are not handing over their TAFE system to the
commonwealth either.
to the change in the way we provide apprentice support in the federal —
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : We had to ask ourselves what the sensible thing to do was. If
the commonwealth government says it has money and wants to take over the
mentoring services and some of the support services for apprentices and is
happy to fund that service, does the state government then run a duplicate
service or do we hand over that service? Apprentices in Western Australia are being
managed through a contract system coordinated from Canberra, but the important
thing is that the quality of the support services being provided to apprentices
is still there, is still very high and, in effect, member for Cockburn, a large
number of the people who were previously employed by the state government in
our present support centres have been re-employed by the commonwealth
providers, so we have the same people performing those services.
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn!
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : I have had no complaints about the transition from a
state-based apprenticeship support system to the commonwealth-based system, but
I reiterate that we are not handing over the management of our TAFE system to
the commonwealth and neither will the commonwealth be providing traineeships or
any form of training in Western Australia through our TAFE system.
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I call you to order for the first time.
Minister, are you finished?
Mrs
L.M. HARVEY : The commonwealth comes up with these ideas and floats them,
but without the agreement of all the states it will not happen. I can assure
the house that I have had a number of conversations with my counterparts in
other states and they are not handing over their TAFE system to the
commonwealth either.
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