❓ Question regarding the process of the Public Sector Commissioner's investigation into the Conductive Education Trial at Carson Street School. Premier Barnett outlines the investigation process and urges cooperation, particularly from the Member for Victoria Park.
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CONDUCTIVE EDUCATION REVIEW REPORT — PUBLIC SECTOR COMMISSIONER INQUIRY
I first acknowledge in the public gallery the year 5 students from Geraldton Grammar School in the member for Geraldton’s electorate. Welcome to Parliament. I have a special interest in Carson Street Special School because my mother worked there for 25 years of her life. I would be pleased if the Premier could explain to the house the process with the Public Sector Commissioner’s investigation into the report “ Orchestrating Lives: an Evaluation of the Early Intervention Conductive Education Trial at Carson Street School ”. Can he please explain how the commissioner will report back to this place following the investigation? Mr C.J. BARNETT
I first acknowledge in the public gallery the year 5 students from Geraldton Grammar School in the member for Geraldton’s electorate. Welcome to Parliament. I have a special interest in Carson Street Special School because my mother worked there for 25 years of her life. I would be pleased if the Premier could explain to the house the process with the Public Sector Commissioner’s investigation into the report “ Orchestrating Lives: an Evaluation of the Early Intervention Conductive Education Trial at Carson Street School ”. Can he please explain how the commissioner will report back to this place following the investigation? Mr C.J. BARNETT
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I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
I have a special interest in Carson Street Special School because my mother worked there for 25 years of her life. I would be pleased if the Premier could explain to the house the process with the Public Sector Commissioner’s investigation into the report “ Orchestrating Lives: an Evaluation of the Early Intervention Conductive Education Trial at Carson Street School ”. Can he please explain how the commissioner will report back to this place following the investigation? Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
I have a special interest in Carson Street Special School because my mother worked there for 25 years of her life. I would be pleased if the Premier could explain to the house the process with the Public Sector Commissioner’s investigation into the report “ Orchestrating Lives: an Evaluation of the Early Intervention Conductive Education Trial at Carson Street School ”. Can he please explain how the commissioner will report back to this place following the investigation? Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
I thank the member for Scarborough for the question. Obviously, this is the issue of the day. I was concerned earlier today when members opposite cast doubt on the independence and integrity of the Public Sector Commission report. Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk : No, we didn’t. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Is the member already admitting it? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I have not even referred to the member, but she is saying that she did not. Be that as it was — Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Perth! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member interrupted me; I did not interrupt her. However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
However, let me go through what will happen. As I said yesterday, I have asked the Public Sector Commissioner to investigate the matter raised by the member for Victoria Park. I have done so because it is a serious matter. I said that yesterday and repeated it today. That investigation is underway and begins today. The Public Sector Commissioner will obviously have access to staff, including those of the Department of Education and the minister’s office. Indeed, I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate with this investigation. Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms R. Saffioti : What about the minister? Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister and the minister’s office will cooperate, and I hope the member for Victoria Park will cooperate. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I will give him the report the minister gave me, yes. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think what the — Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P. Papalia : Is there going to be a draft report or just one? Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr A.J. Waddell : Put track changes on! The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Forrestfield, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I would expect the minister, ministerial staff and any other staff, including Department of Education and school staff, to cooperate fully with the Public Sector Commission inquiry. As I was about to say, I hope the member for Victoria Park will also fully cooperate. It seems to me that one question that might be asked of him is when he received the report or reports and from whom he received them. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I do not ask the member for Victoria Park to answer that now. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Some of you may not like the answer the Premier is giving. I would simply like to hear the answer that the Premier is giving. I cannot hear it at the moment. I suggest less interjection. Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : As the minister — Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms R. Saffioti : Absolutely disgraceful! The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for West Swan, I formally call you to order for the third time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The minister outlined today her account of her knowledge of the report and the process, but, obviously, all of that will be investigated by the Public Sector Commission—times, dates, persons, phone calls, emails, the lot. All I say is that I hope the member for Victoria Park will give a commitment to be fully open and accountable on this matter. Will he be? I am not asking him to answer now. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : It sounds as though he is not going to be. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I hope he will say to the Public Sector Commissioner when he received the two reports and from whom he received them. That would be interesting. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Will the member cooperate with the Public Sector Commission inquiry? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : All right; he will cooperate. That is good. I am pleased. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr T.G. Stephens interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Pilbara, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think everybody wants to stay here for the rest of today. That is my impression. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The investigation will be undertaken by Ms Fiona Roche, the deputy commissioner for accountability. As I said this morning, if at any stage the Public Sector Commissioner forms the view that there may have been serious misconduct, it will automatically be referred to the Corruption and Crime Commission, and I would think that is the highest level of investigation that we should be looking at. In my correspondence yesterday to the Public Sector Commission, I said that it was to report and to report back to me. Members opposite took exception to that. That is a fair point; I will concede that. Nothing was intended by that, but, as a result of members doubting the integrity of the commission and implying — Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P.B. Watson : You’re floundering! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, goodness me! Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr P.B. Watson : You’re being precious! The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Member for Albany! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I am not precious, member for Albany. But members opposite suggested that there would be a draft report that would come to me. They implied that I would somehow seek to influence the report. They reflected adversely on the integrity, the impartiality and the objectivity — Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Members opposite keep confessing; I have not accused them of anything. Why are they confessing? Do they have guilt hanging over them? Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Ms M.M. Quirk interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Given that the integrity of the process was questioned by members opposite, I have again written to the Public Sector Commissioner and I have said that he is not to provide a draft report to me — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : It is so hard to soar like an eagle when you are surrounded by turkeys! Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, this is childish. The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
The SPEAKER : Absolutely remarkable exhibition! Members, if you do not want any more questions asked today, you should just keep going the way you are. That applies to everybody in this place. Just keep going the way you are and there will be no more questions today. Premier, I hope you are near the conclusion of the answer to this question. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I wrote to the Public Sector Commissioner again this morning to say that he is not to prepare a draft report for me or anyone else, but he should present his report to the Parliament directly. Happy? Satisfied? Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The only way in which any report would be circulated to anyone would be, according to natural justice, if they were affected parties; if someone is adversely commented on, they will have an opportunity to see that and respond. That is natural justice. I think people would assume that that is the way the Public Sector Commission operates. The report will not come to me, unless I am an affected party; I do not think I will be. The report will not come to me; it will come directly to Parliament. The minister, the government and I have nothing to hide on this issue. But, as I said yesterday, it is absolutely unacceptable that two reports that contradict each other should be in public circulation. It is unacceptable, and I want to know how and why that happened.
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Committee profiles and recent reports.
Regulations
Subsidiary legislation with filters and summaries.
Bills
Proposed laws and parliamentary progress.
Acts
Current WA legislation and summaries.
Explanatory Memoranda
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Members
MP profiles, party breakdown and rankings.
Pollie Rankings
Data-driven rankings across 19 categories.
Amendment Chains
Track how schemes and regulations evolve over time.