❓ A parliamentary question regarding the tabling of TAFE colleges' delivery and performance agreements. The Minister refuses, citing commercial sensitivity in a competitive training market, contrasting with the previous government's approach.
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TAFE COLLEGES — DELIVERY AND PERFORMANCE AGREEMENTS
I refer to the answer to my question on notice 4513, asked on 16 August 2011, and the refusal by the minister to table the requested documents on the grounds of commercial in confidence. (1) Is the minister aware that during the time of the previous government Hon Giz Watson requested the tabling of the delivery and performance agreements of all TAFEs operating in Western Australia and that this request was agreed to by the then ALP government? (2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER
I refer to the answer to my question on notice 4513, asked on 16 August 2011, and the refusal by the minister to table the requested documents on the grounds of commercial in confidence. (1) Is the minister aware that during the time of the previous government Hon Giz Watson requested the tabling of the delivery and performance agreements of all TAFEs operating in Western Australia and that this request was agreed to by the then ALP government? (2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER
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I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(1) Is the minister aware that during the time of the previous government Hon Giz Watson requested the tabling of the delivery and performance agreements of all TAFEs operating in Western Australia and that this request was agreed to by the then ALP government? (2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(1) Is the minister aware that during the time of the previous government Hon Giz Watson requested the tabling of the delivery and performance agreements of all TAFEs operating in Western Australia and that this request was agreed to by the then ALP government? (2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(2) Can the minister please explain, apart from a change in government, what is now so substantially different that leads the minister to believe that transparency in the availability of the agreements is no longer possible? (3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(3) As the minister is not prepared to make these agreements available, will the minister please explain how taxpayers are expected to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent appropriately? (4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(4) As the minister has now used commercial-in-confidence provisions as the excuse not to table the agreements, will the minister please confirm that he has now written to the Auditor General’s office as per section 82 of the Financial Management Act to advise of this refusal to table the documents in Parliament? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
I am going to love having a go at this one, and I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question. I am going to have a field day! (1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(1) No. (2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(2) A priority of this government has been the development of a more contemporary, competitive training market. State training providers now operate as part of this more competitive market. In doing so they compete with each other and private training organisations for training delivery funded through competitive purchasing arrangements. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I can assure members opposite that this is a lot different than when they were in power and the providers love it! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : They love it! This includes funds allocated — The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Order! Look, minister, you have to stop when there is enough noise for me to intervene. Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Okay. The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
The PRESIDENT : Everybody must stop. Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I would not be saying much, Mr President, I can assure you! To continue — This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
This includes funds allocated through user-choice principles for apprenticeships and traineeships in which employers choose which training provider they wish to engage. Knowledge of the commercial details of the state training providers, outside formal reporting requirements such as annual reports typically required by commercial operators, could negatively impact their position in the market place. In this context it is not considered appropriate to release information that may provide a commercial advantage to competing organisations, private or public. (3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(3) Taxpayers are able to ensure that their money is being spent appropriately through the information provided in the annual reports which all state training providers are required to produce and which are tabled in Parliament each year. (4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
(4) No; however, as I am sure the member is well aware, section 82 of the Financial Management Act requires me to advise the Auditor General within 14 days of a decision being taken and I will comply with that provision.
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