❓ A parliamentary question regarding teacher registration in WA, addressing misinformation and the legislative framework. The Minister's answer defends the current system while acknowledging its complexities and highlighting the previous government's role in establishing it.
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TEACHER REGISTRATION
In light of recent misinformation and scaremongering, will the minister please advise the house of the true legislative framework underpinning teacher registration in Western Australia? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not unless she reads the answer! The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE
In light of recent misinformation and scaremongering, will the minister please advise the house of the true legislative framework underpinning teacher registration in Western Australia? Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not unless she reads the answer! The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE
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In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not unless she reads the answer! The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
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Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : Not unless she reads the answer! The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE replied: In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
In the same way the member for Midland reads all her speeches! Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr Speaker, I thank the member for Ocean Reef for his question. It is a very important question on a matter that has received a lot of media attention in the past few days, during a period when WACOT, the Western Australian College of Teaching, is seeking reregistration from about 19 000 members. We must all remember who set up the WACOT legislation. It was, of course, the previous government that produced the first legislation in 2003. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Did you support it, minister? Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I certainly support the registration of teachers, because I support high-quality teachers and I support the safety and security of children in our schools, which is the purpose of registration. However, I did not support everything in that bill. In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
In 2003, the house was presented with the initial bill and, in 2007, with the amendments. One of the problems with the WACOT legislation, as we have discovered and as has been illustrated in the past few days, is that it is very complicated and very cumbersome. It certainly needs simplifying, and that is the direction this government is heading in. Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Members of WACOT are asked to pay annually for their membership and then every five years for their registration—that is two steps that teachers have to go through. I suspect that during this registration period, after the first five years of the act being in place, people have muddled up the payment of their annual membership, which is paid in March, with the registration that they are now being asked to pay. I can understand how some people would muddle up something like that. The other cumbersome part of the registration process is the criminal record check set up in the original 2003 bill and later the quite proper working with children check, introduced by the same government. Both are hoops for teachers to jump through; both need to be simplified. However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
However, the fundamental problem is in the initial setting up of WACOT. It was set up by the previous government as an independent statutory authority. This, of course, gives the minister no ability to direct the organisation. To put that in the right perspective, in response to a question from me during the original debate in 2003 when I was expressing concern that the minister could not direct, the then minister, Hon Alan Carpenter, said that the clause was basically his decision and that he did not want to provide the minister with the power of direction. That goes right back to the beginning of this legislation. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will come to the review in a moment. Yesterday, we saw — Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Member for Victoria Park, I said this when I got to my feet twice yesterday. I was not going to call you to order when I stood, but I formally call you to order now for continuing to talk when I am on my feet. And, member for Victoria Park, the question was not asked by you. I acknowledge that as the shadow for education, you have a strong interest in this. I now provide you with the advice that you would be better off getting to your feet at some time to ask a question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
I notice that yesterday the member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime when talking to Howard Sattler. He said — And that’s the problem, is that the review identified the fact that the Minister can’t even direct WACOT. We knew that in 2003. If he had dusted off his copies of Hansard , he would have discovered that as well. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Talking about his vivid imagination — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time today. I would like everybody in this place to give the minister an opportunity to answer the question. It was asked by the member for Ocean Reef; it was not asked by anyone else. Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : Thank you, Mr Speaker. The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The member for Victoria Park’s vivid imagination was working overtime again during his budget speech when he drew attention to a question that he asked and that I answered on 17 May; namely — Has any submission been put to the Corporate Executive of the Department of Education in respect of the operation of the Upper School Aboriginal Tutor Assistance Scheme (ATAS)? I answered — I am advised by the Department of Education that — (1) No. He then went on to talk about a freedom of information application that he had made. Again, my advice today is that two draft papers were submitted to the education executive. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
(1) No.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Victoria Park. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member is not listening! The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Minister, if you continue to name a member in this place, you must expect some interjection from them. Member for Victoria Park, my previous advice to you stands: if there are particular elements of this discussion that you would like to inquire into, seek the call and I will give you the call. Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The member asked me a question about the corporate executive and the FOI request was about the education executive—two different bodies. Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Mr B.S. Wyatt interjected. Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : That is what I have been informed by the director general today. The member was told in the FOI schedule — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park! Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : The FOI schedule that the member received states very clearly that the documents were draft — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Member for Victoria Park, I formally call you for the second time today. Member for Albany, I call you to order for the first time today. Minister, I hope you are going to reach a rapid conclusion to this question. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I will, Mr Speaker. The point has to be made that the member was told in the FOI request that the documents were draft and they were never placed on the education executive agenda. They are two different agendas. As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
As the Western Australian College of Teaching currently stands, it is the board that has full responsibility for WACOT. The act required a review to be called and put into operation in 2008. The previous government, when it was in office in 2008, did not bother, but in late 2008 I asked the Department of Education Services to undertake a review. I received the report in June 2010 and I immediately instructed the Department of Education Services to undertake a consultation with stakeholders — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
The SPEAKER : Why is it that people come to ask for more questions in question time? Once again, members, it is self-evident today that we do not get more questions because of the continual interjections. Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
Dr E. CONSTABLE : I asked the Department of Education Services to consult with stakeholders with a view to amending the legislation and I expect to introduce that legislation in the spring session.
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