Mr. Buswell asks the Premier to commit to transparency regarding residential electricity tariff review outcomes and potential price increases. The Premier agrees to release the information when available, but also deflects by highlighting the complexity of the issue and criticising the opposition's understanding.

AnsweredQoN 115Legislative Assembly
Asked
1 April 2008
Portfolio
Premier

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RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY TARIFFS 115. Mr T. BUSWELL to the Premier: I have a supplementary question. Will the Premier commit to telling this house as soon as the review of residential electricity tariffs is delivered to cabinet, and to telling the Western Australian public exactly how much their power bills will rise? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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This is what I will do: as soon as the government has the material available—and it is in collation now—it will be released. It may well be that it is released on a day that Parliament is not sitting, for example, so it might be better digested. The basic answer to that part of the member’s question is yes. I will know — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
RESIDENTIAL ELECTRICITY TARIFFS
I have a supplementary question. Will the Premier commit to telling this house as soon as the review of residential electricity tariffs is delivered to cabinet, and to telling the Western Australian public exactly how much their power bills will rise? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: This is what I will do: as soon as the government has the material available—and it is in collation now—it will be released. It may well be that it is released on a day that Parliament is not sitting, for example, so it might be better digested. The basic answer to that part of the member’s question is yes. I will know — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: This is what I will do: as soon as the government has the material available—and it is in collation now—it will be released. It may well be that it is released on a day that Parliament is not sitting, for example, so it might be better digested. The basic answer to that part of the member’s question is yes. I will know — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
This is what I will do: as soon as the government has the material available—and it is in collation now—it will be released. It may well be that it is released on a day that Parliament is not sitting, for example, so it might be better digested. The basic answer to that part of the member’s question is yes. I will know — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will have a pretty good idea of what that price movement will have to be, and the government will have to decide how quickly we get there. I will make that clear to the public of Western Australia. That question shows how little the opposition knows about the industry itself. Firstly, does any member in this room know exactly what Ross Garner will recommend as the carbon price? Does any member know? Secondly, does any member know how the federal government will respond to that recommendation and what impact that might have on power prices? Does any member in this room know? Of course not! What must be done — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The sort of simplistic approach that the opposition propagates does not work. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I give a commitment to the opposition and the Western Australian public that I will be completely open and honest about the power pricing situation in Western Australia. When I have the information, it will be released. I will explain the government’s position and I will be completely honest with people, and then I will let them make a judgement. Ordinary Western Australians can make a judgement about whether the Premier is being honest with them, or is trying to pull the wool over their eyes. Is he trying to tell them that there is some mythical model that was in use back in the 1950s, 1960s or 1970s, and if we go back there, somehow gas prices would not have gone up, labour prices would not have gone up and construction prices would not have gone up? Will the Western Australian public believe the opposition when it tries to tell them that? The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.
The member for Kalgoorlie saw quite clearly what needed to be done. I am grateful to him for providing the state, when he was Leader of the Opposition, with an opportunity for reform. It is a shame that that opportunity seems to have disappeared with him out of the leadership.

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