❓ Hon. Norman Moore questions the uptake of small bar licenses after recent legislative amendments and a related advertising campaign. Hon. Ljiljanna Ravlich defends the progress, citing necessary processes and lack of set targets.
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SMALL BAR LICENCES
I hope Hansard got that interjection. (1) Have any small bar licences been granted since the amendments to the liquor legislation recently? (2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
I hope Hansard got that interjection. (1) Have any small bar licences been granted since the amendments to the liquor legislation recently? (2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(1) Have any small bar licences been granted since the amendments to the liquor legislation recently? (2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(1) Have any small bar licences been granted since the amendments to the liquor legislation recently? (2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(2) If so, how many have been granted and where are they located? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
I thank the member for his question. (1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
(1)-(2) Four applications for small bar licences have been received by the Department of Racing, Gaming and Liquor. As of today, I understand that two have been approved. One is for a bar in West Perth and the other is in Fremantle. I understand that additional applications are before the Director of Liquor Licensing and a number have been received by Perth City Council. There may be a number of others before other local government authorities. One of the criticisms of small bar licences is that perhaps the uptake of them has not been as high as anticipated. Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : Perhaps they didn’t watch your ads. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition should wait until I finish. The legislation came into force on 7 May, only a matter of months ago. Quite clearly, when somebody is about to establish a small bar, he or she has to go through a number of processes. Apart from applying to the local government authority, generally speaking, plans need to be drawn up for the changes that are needed. If a new bar facility is to be constructed, obviously builders and architects etc need to be consulted. Funding also needs to be secured because, naturally, these things take resources, and I know of very few people who have $150 000 or $200 000 or whatever it costs to set up a small bar lying around the house. Quite clearly, a number of processes need to be followed. Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : Let Hansard reflect loud laughter in the chamber. This is just the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard in my life. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : It is not a ridiculous answer; it is an answer that reflects - Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon Norman Moore : You pass legislation and then you run an expensive television campaign telling people to get on the grog and create small bars and you have four applications. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : That is fine. I am quite happy with that because I understand what the process is. The process is such that a number of things have to occur. Quite frankly, if the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that we should have 30 applications, I say that we never put a number on the record. We never set targets. It is clearly about consumer demand and people taking up the opportunities that are there. Quite frankly, I am quite pleased with the way that it is progressing. We know that a number of other applications are before local government authorities and they will flow through in due course. When there are objections to applications, applicants will have rights when lodging those objections. Quite clearly, people are entitled to procedural fairness and natural justice.
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