❓ Mr. Cook questions the Minister for Health regarding the privatization of hospital services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, specifically requesting access to studies or business cases justifying the decision. The Minister acknowledges the contract with Serco and a public sector comparator but is non-committal about releasing the comparator publicly.
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FIONA STANLEY HOSPITAL — PREFERRED HOSPITAL SERVICES PROVIDER
I refer to the minister’s announcement yesterday of the preferred provider of hospital services at Fiona Stanley Hospital. (1) Has the government undertaken a study or business case setting out the improvement in services for or the savings to the Western Australian taxpayer by the privatisation of hospital services? (2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES
I refer to the minister’s announcement yesterday of the preferred provider of hospital services at Fiona Stanley Hospital. (1) Has the government undertaken a study or business case setting out the improvement in services for or the savings to the Western Australian taxpayer by the privatisation of hospital services? (2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES
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I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(1) Has the government undertaken a study or business case setting out the improvement in services for or the savings to the Western Australian taxpayer by the privatisation of hospital services? (2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(1) Has the government undertaken a study or business case setting out the improvement in services for or the savings to the Western Australian taxpayer by the privatisation of hospital services? (2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(2) If the study has been undertaken, will the government make it available to the public today? (3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(3) If no to (2), why not? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
I understand that the member for Kwinana was unwell yesterday, so we are glad to see him back. Perhaps he came across the same organism that I came across at Fremantle Hospital that gave me the same symptoms! The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
The SPEAKER : Too much information, minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Ms M.M. Quirk : You give us the same symptoms! Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : That sounded like a good interjection but, sadly, I missed it. I will have to read it in Hansard . The answer is — (1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
(1)–(3) It is true that we have gone to Serco as the preferred tenderer to provide the backroom services for the provision of a large number of services at Fiona Stanley Hospital, and we will proceed through that process. In the process of undertaking the decision on who would get that contract, a lot of work was done in making sure that the quality and standard of the services provided would be very high. A lot of that work was done to make sure that there was a comparator with the public sector. Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr E.S. Ripper : There was a comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : As I understand it, yes. Certainly the briefing note I read yesterday said there was a public services comparator. Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : But you have not seen the comparator? Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I have seen the report that says there was one done and the outcome. Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : Didn’t you inquire about that sort of stuff? Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Kwinana must bear in mind that this was done under the system that the previous government set up, and I have not changed it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : It is very interesting that opposition members should continue this diatribe against these services. I do not expect for one second to convince them that their program was wrong. But just let me point out that the federal government itself, which is a Labor federal government, has employed exactly the same company to manage its detention centres. Why would it do that? Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr E.S. Ripper : That’s a great success. Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : It is a great success, and all we need do is look at the management of Acacia Prison that continued under the previous government. Serco is a renowned international company that provides services for the public sector across a range of industries. Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Mr R.H. Cook : Will you make the comparator available to the public? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know whether I will do that. I will talk to my senior staff and see whether there is any reason why we should or should not, but I do not have an answer to that.
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