❓ Mr. Logan questions the lack of water-saving incentives in the budget after the Water Corporation CEO's statement. The Minister defends the cancellation of the Waterwise rebate program, citing its decreased uptake and the previous government's lack of funding for it.
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water-saving measures — state budget 2010–11
I draw the minister’s attention to the statement made last week by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation, Ms Sue Murphy, in which she said that the corporation is always telling people what they cannot do. It is a worry that a lot of Water Corporation campaigns are saying “Don’t do this. Don’t do that.” (1) Given the admission by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation that more needs to be done than simply urging Western Australians to use less water, why is there no funding in the budget papers for any form of incentives to encourage people to install water-saving devices? (2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS
I draw the minister’s attention to the statement made last week by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation, Ms Sue Murphy, in which she said that the corporation is always telling people what they cannot do. It is a worry that a lot of Water Corporation campaigns are saying “Don’t do this. Don’t do that.” (1) Given the admission by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation that more needs to be done than simply urging Western Australians to use less water, why is there no funding in the budget papers for any form of incentives to encourage people to install water-saving devices? (2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS
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I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(1) Given the admission by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation that more needs to be done than simply urging Western Australians to use less water, why is there no funding in the budget papers for any form of incentives to encourage people to install water-saving devices? (2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(1) Given the admission by the chief executive officer of the Water Corporation that more needs to be done than simply urging Western Australians to use less water, why is there no funding in the budget papers for any form of incentives to encourage people to install water-saving devices? (2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(2) When will the minister acknowledge that he made a mistake in cancelling the Waterwise rebate program and reintroduce this critical water-saving incentive? Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS replied: I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
I thank the member for the question. I was wondering where he has been all week. After his questions last week, the Leader of the Opposition asked all the questions about water and water pricing this week. (1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
(1)–(2) The Waterwise program had run its time. The uptake in that program had decreased. When the program first started only four brands of washing machines met the Waterwise criteria. When it had finished, 120 brands of washing machines were water wise; people could not buy a non–water wise washing machine in Western Australia. The uptake had decreased. Interestingly, when we took over government, we found that the previous Labor government had no money in the forward estimates for the Waterwise program; it had used all the money. If we are going to be very honest, the program was going to be ceased by the previous Labor government. Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : You are the biggest coward of a minister in this government. Withdrawal of Remark Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member for Cockburn just referred to the Minister for Water as a coward. That is unparliamentary. The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : I ask you to withdraw that, member for Cockburn. Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I withdraw. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn knows that I will deal with issues. He is very ungrateful when it comes to some of the issues in his electorate; he knows that. Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : We have to move on with other water demand strategies. We now have a program—the member for Cockburn knows about the program—that we are piloting in Margaret River to retrofit houses to make them water efficient. We have to think of other means and other methods. The previous government was basically stuck on a program that had achieved its result. As to the remarks about water demand strategies, the member for Cockburn is supposed to be the shadow spokesman for water, yet he never supported me on winter sprinkler bans. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : In fact, he did not understand it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Minister. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s — Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr P. Papalia interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Member for Warnbro, I formally call you for the first time today, according to this sheet. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member for Cockburn’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban — Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : Minister, why don’t you get on and answer the question. The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, you have asked the question. You might not like the answer that you are receiving, but I insist that you cease interjecting. I formally call you for the first time today. Point of Order Mr F.M. LOGAN : As you know, Mr Speaker, if the minister on his feet in this house encourages an interjection by directly addressing me, I think it is fair and proper that I respond. The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : That is not a point of order. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was to bemoan to a radio announcer the fact that his vegie patch in Swanbourne would die because of a lack of water during the winter sprinkler ban. Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I assume that we are having a reasonably short question time today. The question was about the Waterwise rebate program; it was not about vegie patches—wherever they are. I ask the minister, on the grounds of relevance, to come back to the question. The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Thank you very much for that, member for Rockingham. I would enjoin your point of order. I ask the minister to come back to the question that was asked. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr G.G. JACOBS : This is about water demand strategies. The member’s question was about stopping people doing this and stopping people doing that. It is about water demand management and the responsible use of water. Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Mr F.M. Logan : What are you doing, minister? Nothing. Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : The member’s understanding of the winter sprinkler ban was very deficient because he did not realise that he could hand water his wee vegie patch as much as he liked during the winter sprinkler ban. The policy of members opposite is nil. The member for Cockburn has no policy; in fact, he was quoted in the Fremantle Herald as saying that desalination plants are environmentally criminal. He was in government; he was in cabinet. But where was he when we endorsed the desalination plants in Western Australia? Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
Dr G.G. JACOBS : Does the member endorse either private or public desalination plants for the Pilbara water plan in the future? Point of Order Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, the question was about the Waterwise rebate program. You asked the minister to keep to that subject and he is now delving into anything that comes into his head. I ask him to go back to the question. The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
The SPEAKER : I am not going to take the point of order. The minister has concluded his answer, I believe.
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