Mr. Cook questions Minister Hames on the government's response to and implementation of recommendations from Lieutenant General Sanderson's reports on Indigenous Affairs. The Minister's response is initially uncertain, leading to a somewhat combative exchange.

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18 May 2010
Portfolio
Indigenous Affairs

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INDIGENOUS AFFAIRS — SANDERSON REPORTS
I refer to the minister’s comments when in opposition in 2007 when he said that he had so much respect for Lieutenant General Sanderson that he would look seriously at any proposal Lieutenant General Sanderson made. When in government in 2008, the minister said that Lieutenant General Sanderson has the knowledge, experience and commitment to fundamentally rethink the way we address the entrenched disadvantage of many Aboriginal people in this state. (1) When will the minister actually respond to Sanderson’s first report and subsequently his second report? (2) When will the minister get on with the job of implementing and taking action on the recommendations of the Sanderson reports? (3) Will there be any budget backing for any real action? (4) Is the minister aware of the internal issues inside Sanderson’s committee, and has the minister intervened to ensure that these internal issues will be resolved? Dr K.D. HAMES

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(1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
(1) When will the minister actually respond to Sanderson’s first report and subsequently his second report? (2) When will the minister get on with the job of implementing and taking action on the recommendations of the Sanderson reports? (3) Will there be any budget backing for any real action? (4) Is the minister aware of the internal issues inside Sanderson’s committee, and has the minister intervened to ensure that these internal issues will be resolved? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
(2) When will the minister get on with the job of implementing and taking action on the recommendations of the Sanderson reports? (3) Will there be any budget backing for any real action? (4) Is the minister aware of the internal issues inside Sanderson’s committee, and has the minister intervened to ensure that these internal issues will be resolved? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
(3) Will there be any budget backing for any real action? (4) Is the minister aware of the internal issues inside Sanderson’s committee, and has the minister intervened to ensure that these internal issues will be resolved? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
(4) Is the minister aware of the internal issues inside Sanderson’s committee, and has the minister intervened to ensure that these internal issues will be resolved? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
(1)–(4) My memory must be failing me because I am fairly certain that when I tabled in this house Lieutenant General Sanderson’s second report, I tabled our response to the first report. Go back and check. Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Mr R.H. Cook : There were some casual observations but I don’t think you actually responded to it at all. It was a couple of paragraphs about your general thoughts. Why don’t you do some work? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I will go back and check, but I am sure that I tabled in this house the response to the report. Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Mr R.H. Cook : That was on the second report. Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Dr K.D. HAMES : When I tabled the second report, I also tabled a separate response to what was in the first report. That answers the question. I have responded to the first report. The second report was done only very recently. No, we have not responded to the second report. Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Mr R.H. Cook : How long have you had the second report for? Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I do not know; for only a month or so. Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Mr R.H. Cook : You’ve had it for a couple of months. Trust me. Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
Dr K.D. HAMES : It has not been very long. It is a very recent report. By and large, the contents of that report looked at what I encouraged Lieutenant General Sanderson to do, which was something that the previous government had totally rejected. The previous government had totally rejected his recommendations, one of which was to look at regional governance. That is something that Lieutenant General Sanderson is very keen on. I asked him to flesh out some of the details of how a regional governance model could work if we, as a government, were interested in such a model, and he has gone some degree down that path. We do not yet have the full details. That is something that the committee is proceeding with by holding numerous meetings with the community. I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.
I have heard some rumours about mild internal difficulties among certain members of the committee, but I have confidence that the committee will do the job it has been given, which is to specifically tell us what it thinks should happen, particularly in terms of governance in remote and regional parts of Western Australia.

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