❓ Mr. Johnson questions the Premier about the Cabinet Secretary's exclusion from informal cabinet meetings and the record-keeping practices of these meetings, referencing a 1995 report. The Premier's response avoids directly answering the questions, leading to accusations of secrecy and a disorderly parliamentary exchange.
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I refer the Premier to recommendation 15 of the Commission on Government report No 1 of August 1995, which recommends that the role of the Cabinet Secretary should include the accurate keeping of cabinet records. (1) Can the Premier confirm that the current Cabinet Secretary, a permanent public servant, is barred from attending the informal part of cabinet meetings? (2) What written records are kept of the informal parts of cabinet meetings, and are these filed with other cabinet records, as has been the accepted practice in the past? Dr G.I. GALLOP
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(1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(1) Can the Premier confirm that the current Cabinet Secretary, a permanent public servant, is barred from attending the informal part of cabinet meetings? (2) What written records are kept of the informal parts of cabinet meetings, and are these filed with other cabinet records, as has been the accepted practice in the past? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(2) What written records are kept of the informal parts of cabinet meetings, and are these filed with other cabinet records, as has been the accepted practice in the past? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(1) Can the Premier confirm that the current Cabinet Secretary, a permanent public servant, is barred from attending the informal part of cabinet meetings? (2) What written records are kept of the informal parts of cabinet meetings, and are these filed with other cabinet records, as has been the accepted practice in the past? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(2) What written records are kept of the informal parts of cabinet meetings, and are these filed with other cabinet records, as has been the accepted practice in the past? Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Dr G.I. GALLOP replied: (1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
(1)-(2) It is quite appropriate for the ministers of the Cabinet of Western Australia to get together to discuss matters relating to politics in Western Australia. As a group we are entitled to do that, and we do it. Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Mr R.F. Johnson: We are back to WA Inc. This is a disgrace. Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Dr G.I. GALLOP: It is not a disgrace. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
The SPEAKER: I call the member for Hillarys to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for probably the third time.
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