❓ Question regarding the government's commitment to improving transport in the south metropolitan region is answered by the Minister, who defends the government's spending on public transport in both metropolitan and regional areas, highlighting the cost-effectiveness of metropolitan services compared to the AvonLink.
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Will the minister respond to criticism from some quarters about the Government’s commitment to improve transport in the south metropolitan region? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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I have been looking forward to this opportunity to get some truth on the record on public transport services in this State. The member for Avon is running a vigorous campaign criticising the provision of rail services to the people of Rockingham and Mandurah. He has said that it is outrageous and he is attributing every possible problem in the countryside to the Government’s decision to extend the rail line. It is important that we get a few things straight. An analysis has been done on public transport provided inside and outside the metropolitan area. The analysis covered the rail and bus services in country districts, bus services in regional towns, free school bus services throughout the State, subsidised air services to the north west of the State and payments under the student subsidised travel scheme. In all, they total some $67.37 million a year, which equates to $127 a year for each of the 530 000 people who live in country Western Australia. In contrast, the same study of the metropolitan area indicates that $111 a year is spent on each resident in the metropolitan area. In the metropolitan area on a per capita basis we are spending 15 per cent less a year on public transport. So much for the argument that we are discriminating against regional Western Australia. One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: I have been looking forward to this opportunity to get some truth on the record on public transport services in this State. The member for Avon is running a vigorous campaign criticising the provision of rail services to the people of Rockingham and Mandurah. He has said that it is outrageous and he is attributing every possible problem in the countryside to the Government’s decision to extend the rail line. It is important that we get a few things straight. An analysis has been done on public transport provided inside and outside the metropolitan area. The analysis covered the rail and bus services in country districts, bus services in regional towns, free school bus services throughout the State, subsidised air services to the north west of the State and payments under the student subsidised travel scheme. In all, they total some $67.37 million a year, which equates to $127 a year for each of the 530 000 people who live in country Western Australia. In contrast, the same study of the metropolitan area indicates that $111 a year is spent on each resident in the metropolitan area. In the metropolitan area on a per capita basis we are spending 15 per cent less a year on public transport. So much for the argument that we are discriminating against regional Western Australia. One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
I have been looking forward to this opportunity to get some truth on the record on public transport services in this State. The member for Avon is running a vigorous campaign criticising the provision of rail services to the people of Rockingham and Mandurah. He has said that it is outrageous and he is attributing every possible problem in the countryside to the Government’s decision to extend the rail line. It is important that we get a few things straight. An analysis has been done on public transport provided inside and outside the metropolitan area. The analysis covered the rail and bus services in country districts, bus services in regional towns, free school bus services throughout the State, subsidised air services to the north west of the State and payments under the student subsidised travel scheme. In all, they total some $67.37 million a year, which equates to $127 a year for each of the 530 000 people who live in country Western Australia. In contrast, the same study of the metropolitan area indicates that $111 a year is spent on each resident in the metropolitan area. In the metropolitan area on a per capita basis we are spending 15 per cent less a year on public transport. So much for the argument that we are discriminating against regional Western Australia. One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
[See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: I have been looking forward to this opportunity to get some truth on the record on public transport services in this State. The member for Avon is running a vigorous campaign criticising the provision of rail services to the people of Rockingham and Mandurah. He has said that it is outrageous and he is attributing every possible problem in the countryside to the Government’s decision to extend the rail line. It is important that we get a few things straight. An analysis has been done on public transport provided inside and outside the metropolitan area. The analysis covered the rail and bus services in country districts, bus services in regional towns, free school bus services throughout the State, subsidised air services to the north west of the State and payments under the student subsidised travel scheme. In all, they total some $67.37 million a year, which equates to $127 a year for each of the 530 000 people who live in country Western Australia. In contrast, the same study of the metropolitan area indicates that $111 a year is spent on each resident in the metropolitan area. In the metropolitan area on a per capita basis we are spending 15 per cent less a year on public transport. So much for the argument that we are discriminating against regional Western Australia. One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
I have been looking forward to this opportunity to get some truth on the record on public transport services in this State. The member for Avon is running a vigorous campaign criticising the provision of rail services to the people of Rockingham and Mandurah. He has said that it is outrageous and he is attributing every possible problem in the countryside to the Government’s decision to extend the rail line. It is important that we get a few things straight. An analysis has been done on public transport provided inside and outside the metropolitan area. The analysis covered the rail and bus services in country districts, bus services in regional towns, free school bus services throughout the State, subsidised air services to the north west of the State and payments under the student subsidised travel scheme. In all, they total some $67.37 million a year, which equates to $127 a year for each of the 530 000 people who live in country Western Australia. In contrast, the same study of the metropolitan area indicates that $111 a year is spent on each resident in the metropolitan area. In the metropolitan area on a per capita basis we are spending 15 per cent less a year on public transport. So much for the argument that we are discriminating against regional Western Australia. One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
One rail service that will be of interest to members was established by the previous Government. I am referring to the AvonLink for which the operating cost is around $1 million a year. The patronage figures started at 11 a day. We have now built it up to a massive 40 passengers a day! This means that for each trip taken on the AvonLink the taxpayers are paying $57. If a person commutes to and from work each day the State subsidises that person to the extent of $114 per day. By contrast - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I will table the figures; I have already tabled these figures in answer to questions on notice. I am happy to table the documents. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The member does not want to hear what I am saying. Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Order, Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The previous Government, with a National Party minister at the helm, was prepared to put in this AvonLink service which meant that for each commuter who goes to and from work each day the taxpayer pays $114. By contrast, the average fare subsidy per passenger in the metropolitan system is $2.53. The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The attacks that the member for Avon has levelled at the Metropolitan Rail Service are an absolute disgrace. The people of country Western Australia need to hear the truth and they should understand that they are getting their fair share of public transport dollars under this Government. The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Does the minister wish to table that document? I thought you said you would. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I said I would table a paper. This is only the answer to the question. Points of Order Mr R.F. JOHNSON: The minister said she would table the paper in her hand and now she is destroying it. She is removing pieces of paper. This is typical of the cover up. The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: The minister indicated, as far as I am concerned, that she would table the figures she was referring to. She did not say the entire document or whatever. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: If the Opposition wants my copy of this document, including my notations, where the word “pork-barrelling” features, I am more than happy to table it. [See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
[See paper No 872.] Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M. McGOWAN: I have a point of order. A moment ago the Leader of the Opposition deliberately canvassed your ruling, Mr Speaker. He said the minister did not say that, which was in direct contrast to what you had ruled. This follows a tradition that occurred yesterday, led by the member for Darling Range, when he said your rulings were an absolute disgrace. A trend is developing among members of the Opposition to misuse points of order and to canvass your rulings, which is contrary to the standing orders. The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: The point of order has been made. I did not hear what the Leader of the Opposition said. I am sure that if he was canvassing my ruling he will withdraw that comment. I did not hear it. Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr A.D. McRAE: I have a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr C.J. Barnett: All the cabinet aspirants are jumping to their feet today. Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr M.J. Birney interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: Members! Members! I call the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Kalgoorlie to order for the first time. What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
What is your point of order, member for Riverton? Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr A.D. McRAE: During that exchange the leader of opposition business alleged that the minister was destroying a document. That was not the case. It impugns her reputation. The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The SPEAKER: I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
The minister volunteered to table the paper and she has now done that. Questions without Notice Resumed
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