❓ Hon N.D. Griffiths questions the Minister for Justice regarding the Pyrton prison project and its continuation irrespective of the Marks Inquiry's findings and federal decisions. The Minister confirms the project proceeds unless orders are made against it, criticizes Labor's lack of alternative suggestions, and acknowledges the government's support for the prison's location.
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PYRTON PRISON, MARKS INQUIRY 1244. Hon N.D. GRIFFITHS to the Minister for Justice: (1) Is it the minister's intention to proceed with Pyrton prison irrespective of the result of the inquiry of Mr Peter Marks pursuant to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission Heritage Protection Act 1984 and any subsequent decision of the federal Minister for the Environment and Heritage? (2) Has the Government of Western Australia made any representations to the Marks inquiry? (3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS
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(1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
PYRTON PRISON, MARKS INQUIRY
(1) Is it the minister's intention to proceed with Pyrton prison irrespective of the result of the inquiry of Mr Peter Marks pursuant to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission Heritage Protection Act 1984 and any subsequent decision of the federal Minister for the Environment and Heritage? (2) Has the Government of Western Australia made any representations to the Marks inquiry? (3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(2) Has the Government of Western Australia made any representations to the Marks inquiry? (3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
PYRTON PRISON, MARKS INQUIRY
(1) Is it the minister's intention to proceed with Pyrton prison irrespective of the result of the inquiry of Mr Peter Marks pursuant to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission Heritage Protection Act 1984 and any subsequent decision of the federal Minister for the Environment and Heritage? (2) Has the Government of Western Australia made any representations to the Marks inquiry? (3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(2) Has the Government of Western Australia made any representations to the Marks inquiry? (3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(3) If so, what was the nature and purpose of those representations? Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon PETER FOSS replied: (1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(1) I find the first question somewhat puzzling. It all depends on the result of the inquiry. As the member knows the federal minister has certain powers, so it is dependent upon what orders the federal minister makes. Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon N.D. Griffiths: You have said it is going ahead anyway. Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
Hon PETER FOSS: It is going ahead because nobody has made an order and until such time as somebody makes an order, one does not need to comply. Hon Nick Griffiths is talking about orders that have not even been made. One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
One of the interesting aspects of this whole process is that I have heard a lot of criticism from Labor about the intent to put a prison at Pyrton, but I have never heard where it thinks the prison should go. I am sure many other people in the metropolitan area would love to know where the Labor Party thinks the prison should go if not at Pyrton. I am fascinated with that, because people in many electorates would be interested to hear from the Labor Party as to where it thinks the women's minimum security prison should go. I am sure it would cause considerable interest in electorates to find out Labor's views, because we have not heard them yet. No doubt that will be announced by Mr McGinty. (2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
(2)-(3) The Government has made a representation. We were asked to make a representation. The nature of that representation was to support the placing of a women's minimum security prison at Pyrton. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
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