Question on the delay of the renewable energy feed-in tariff, with the Minister defending the decision to move from a gross to a net tariff due to perceived flaws in the previous plan.

AnsweredQoN 192Legislative Council
Asked
4 May 2010
Portfolio
Energy

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RENEWABLE ENERGY FEED-IN TARIFF
I refer to the Liberal government’s broken promise to introduce a gross feed-in tariff for Western Australia homes. (1) Is the minister still committed to introducing a net feed-in tariff by 1 July? (2) When will the minister be releasing details of the tariff? (3) What has been the delay in formulating this policy? (4) Does the minister concede that 19 months since the feed-in tariff promise was made is too long to wait for even the details of the government’s plan? Hon PETER COLLIER

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I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
(1) Is the minister still committed to introducing a net feed-in tariff by 1 July? (2) When will the minister be releasing details of the tariff? (3) What has been the delay in formulating this policy? (4) Does the minister concede that 19 months since the feed-in tariff promise was made is too long to wait for even the details of the government’s plan? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
(2) When will the minister be releasing details of the tariff? (3) What has been the delay in formulating this policy? (4) Does the minister concede that 19 months since the feed-in tariff promise was made is too long to wait for even the details of the government’s plan? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
(3) What has been the delay in formulating this policy? (4) Does the minister concede that 19 months since the feed-in tariff promise was made is too long to wait for even the details of the government’s plan? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
(4) Does the minister concede that 19 months since the feed-in tariff promise was made is too long to wait for even the details of the government’s plan? Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER replied: I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
I thank the honourable member for some notice of this question—I really do; it is a pertinent question. (1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
(1)–(4) I will say at the outset that the policy for the feed-in tariff that we went into the election with was the policy of the Australian Labor Party; that is, to go for a 60c gross feed-in tariff at a cost of $13.5 million, which was manifestly inadequate. That was purportedly going to deliver about 10 megawatts into the grid. It was not going to do anything like that; in fact, it was going to be about five megawatts. What it was actually going to deliver was probably around 2 900 homes with a gross feed-in tariff. Those 2 900 homes would have had a gross feed-in tariff and their photovoltaic system paid off in about three years. We would have had a Rolls-Royce system for fewer than 3 000 homes and everyone else would have missed out. The government came to the conclusion not long after we took office that that was just inappropriate. What we wanted was a much more comprehensive feed-in tariff, which met the principles of the Council of Australian Governments. So we looked at it to ascertain which would be the best system. In April, when we were looking at announcing the gross feed-in tariff, it became apparent that we had 4 000 applications to that date, yet the funding was going to cater for only 2 900. In essence, 1 000 people would have missed out altogether and potentially tens of thousands of people could have had a net feed-in tariff, which is used in most other jurisdictions. As a result of that, we made the decision to abandon the gross feed-in tariff. It was the right decision—it really was. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : How come people are complaining if it is the right decision? Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : The only ones who would be complaining would be those in the 2 900 that would have had their PV system paid off in three years. It is a good interjection. I ask the member — Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : They are rare but every now and then the member puts one in. What would happen then to the tens of thousands of other houses that missed out altogether? Do we say that we are sorry — Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : We decided we would seek advice from the community at large. There was an extensive consultation period, which was very productive. We have pretty much concluded where we are going with the feed-in tariff. We want a net feed-in tariff that is comprehensive and embraces thousands of Western Australians so that we can say to the people of Western Australia, “Yes, we are going to have a feed-in tariff — Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon Kate Doust : When are you going to do it? Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I am answering. Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon Kate Doust : Take your time—tick-tock! Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I love it; this is great! There is nothing better than revealing a deficiency from members opposite. What they put up was fatally flawed. Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Several members interjected. Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Fair cop—bring it on, spinner! Who did the costings for that $13.5 million? Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon Ken Travers : Who did yours? You’re the government; you promised it! The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : I wonder if it was the former Treasurer! The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
The PRESIDENT : Order! There is a standing order that says that whoever is on their feet, and indeed all members, come to order when whoever is in the chair—whether it is me or a Deputy President—calls order. You do not continue talking, whether you are interjecting or making a statement. Minister, I believe you are coming to your concluding remarks on this question. Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.
Hon PETER COLLIER : Thank you, Mr President. I apologise; but members opposite stir me up. I will bring it to a conclusion. We will introduce a net feed-in tariff. We will announce it very shortly; do not worry. Tens of thousands of Western Australians will be delighted with the announcement as opposed to 2 900 people who would have been delighted as a result of the policy that the previous government was to introduce.

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