❓ Hon Simon O'Brien questions the Minister for Education and Training, Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich, regarding meetings with the Association of Independent Schools of WA (AISWA) and their position on the implementation of outcomes-based education. The Minister confirms meetings and summarizes AISWA's support for timely implementation.
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OUTCOMES-BASED EDUCATION - ASSOCIATION OF INDEPENDENT SCHOOLS OF WA
(1) Has the minister ever met with representatives of the Association of Independent Schools of Western Australia? (2) Has the minister met with AISWA in the past two months or so? (3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
(1) Has the minister ever met with representatives of the Association of Independent Schools of Western Australia? (2) Has the minister met with AISWA in the past two months or so? (3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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(1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(2) Has the minister met with AISWA in the past two months or so? (3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(2) Has the minister met with AISWA in the past two months or so? (3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(3) Can the minister summarise for the house the AISWA position on the implementation of outcomes-based education? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: (1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
(1)-(3) I have met with the union representing independent schools. In fact, I met with its representative only about a week ago in the meeting room at Parliament House. I have met with AISWA. I have probably met with Audrey Jackson in the past two months, because I meet with all the sector heads on a regular basis. I met with her about a week ago. I could not say whether I have met with her twice in the past two months or whether the previous occasion was just over two months ago. I am happy to provide the house with the dates on which I met with not only Audrey Jackson, but also Ron Dullard from the Catholic Education Commission, Paul Albert from the Department of Education and Training, and Richard Strickland from the Department of Education Services. It might also interest the honourable member that I have also met with the Acting Director General of the Curriculum Council. He might also be interested to know that I meet with these people regularly. Why do I meet regularly with these people? I meet with them because we are engaging in a very important reform that is absolutely critical to the students of the state. We, as a government, are introducing 50 new courses of study that will provide opportunity for all. If the member thinks for one moment that I am so slack that I would not meet with those key players directly in my office, he is very much mistaken. The answer is yes. If the member wants to know the specific dates of when I have met with these people, I am happy to provide them. Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon Simon O’Brien : I don’t give a damn about the specifics. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The member has asked the question and he has got the answer. Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon Simon O’Brien : No, I haven’t. I asked the minister to provide to the house a summary about the implementation of OBE. All I have got is a mouthful of rubbish from her. The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Hon Simon O’Brien. The minister is answering the member’s question. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I am happy to answer that part of the question. Certainly, the three sector heads are unanimous in their position that there should be no delay in the courses. That position was unanimous at a meeting in my office approximately one week ago. If there has been a change in position since then, I have to say that Audrey Jackson has not communicated to me that there has been a divergence from the position she had at that meeting in my office. If there is a divergence from that position, I would be more than happy to know.
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