The Minister for Planning and Infrastructure responds to a question regarding the implications of the Member for Moore's alleged endorsement of unrestricted high-rise development in Scarborough, criticising the opposition's lack of a clear coastal development policy and accusing them of pandering to the development industry.

AnsweredQoN 682Legislative Assembly
Asked
9 November 2005
Portfolio
Planning and Infrastructure

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Will the minister explain the implications of the member for Moore’s endorsement of unrestricted high-rise development in Scarborough and other areas of high land value? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN

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I thank the member for the question. We had another “Snookles” special that was full of inaccuracies. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: I thank the member for the question. We had another “Snookles” special that was full of inaccuracies. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
I thank the member for the question. We had another “Snookles” special that was full of inaccuracies. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The member for Moore tried to whip up the spectre of an eight-storey concrete wall being allowed to be built on the coast as part of the government’s policy, as opposed to the Liberal Party’s policy of having no height restriction on coastal development. Of course, the Liberal analysis of our policy is completely wrong, but we expect that. The real story concerns the unwillingness and inability of the opposition to articulate its policy on coastal development. Our government went to the election with a very clear policy because it believed that it was important to provide certainty to the development industry and some measure of comfort to the community. We need to get the balance right between the expectations of the community and the developers. If the government had not provided a policy such as this and some certainty, we would be experiencing what happened in the past; that is, every development site on the beachfront would become a battlefield. In the past, nothing happened because of the conflicts that arose. I am intrigued by the policy of the Liberal Party in this regard. The Liberal Party says that we should not restrict the height of development on high-value land, such as that in Scarborough. Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Mr E.S. Ripper : It’s a Hong Kong policy. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is a Hong Kong policy, and is completely out of keeping with what the general population wants to happen in Scarborough. I can say that with a considerable degree of confidence because of the community consultation processes that we have undertaken. I would like to know the Liberal Party policy for Cottesloe and City Beach, because the unit price of both those areas is of a higher value than it is in Scarborough. What is the opposition’s policy on Cottesloe? Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Several members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is very interesting. The opposition has placed so much confidence in the member for Moore to articulate a policy for Cottesloe. The community needs to know what that policy is. Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Mr G. Snook : It is not about flip-flopping, like yours is. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : We do not know what it is, but it is not about flip-flopping. The opposition’s policy is not a flip-flop; it is a vacuum. Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Mr C.J. Barnett : I’ll give you a copy of my newsletter. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Pensioned off leaders are not necessarily the best articulators of opposition policy. When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.
When the government recently released its statement of planning policy to give form, shape and legislative force to the policy that it announced before the last election, a number of groups said that it did not go far enough. They asked what would happen, God forbid the thought, when Labor is no longer in office. We made the point that that is a part of the democratic process; we cannot rule from the grave. It is very important that the community understand the policy of the other side of the house. There is no policy. All we have seen is the Liberal Party’s pandering to the development industry. It has not been honest with the community.

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