❓ Mr. Trenorden questions the gas transport tariff Western Power signed after the Dampier to Bunbury pipeline privatisation. Mr. Ripper avoids a direct answer, defends the independent regulatory process, and states Western Power negotiated a beneficial deal.
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At the time of privatisation of the Dampier to Bunbury gas pipeline, the gas transport tariff was $1. The Independent Gas Pipelines Access Regulator then set the tariff at 78c. At the time, the minister stated that it would be improper to become involved in the debate that followed the setting of the tariff. Can the minister now confirm that the agreement for the gas transport tariff that Western Power has just signed is for 78c or less; or is it in fact well above $1? Mr E.S. RIPPER
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Members opposite are still carrying a torch for Epic Energy. It is gone! It made a bad deal and it has gone out backwards! I feel sorry for its staff because it had good technical people working for it; however, they were let down by the people who made the financial decisions. In particular, Epic Energy has come out of whatever understandings it had with the previous Government in a very bad way. I resisted calls from the Opposition for me to corruptly influence the tariff setting process, to corruptly break the law of this State and to break an agreement entered into by the coalition Government and every other Government in this country not to deviate from the question of independent gas access regulation. I stuck to the agreement, even though it had been entered into by our predecessors. I stuck to the law, even though the law had been put through the Parliament by the then Minister for Energy, the now Leader of the Opposition. I refused to break the law and to do some sort of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, secret deal” on the tariffs. On the question - Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: Members opposite are still carrying a torch for Epic Energy. It is gone! It made a bad deal and it has gone out backwards! I feel sorry for its staff because it had good technical people working for it; however, they were let down by the people who made the financial decisions. In particular, Epic Energy has come out of whatever understandings it had with the previous Government in a very bad way. I resisted calls from the Opposition for me to corruptly influence the tariff setting process, to corruptly break the law of this State and to break an agreement entered into by the coalition Government and every other Government in this country not to deviate from the question of independent gas access regulation. I stuck to the agreement, even though it had been entered into by our predecessors. I stuck to the law, even though the law had been put through the Parliament by the then Minister for Energy, the now Leader of the Opposition. I refused to break the law and to do some sort of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, secret deal” on the tariffs. On the question - Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Members opposite are still carrying a torch for Epic Energy. It is gone! It made a bad deal and it has gone out backwards! I feel sorry for its staff because it had good technical people working for it; however, they were let down by the people who made the financial decisions. In particular, Epic Energy has come out of whatever understandings it had with the previous Government in a very bad way. I resisted calls from the Opposition for me to corruptly influence the tariff setting process, to corruptly break the law of this State and to break an agreement entered into by the coalition Government and every other Government in this country not to deviate from the question of independent gas access regulation. I stuck to the agreement, even though it had been entered into by our predecessors. I stuck to the law, even though the law had been put through the Parliament by the then Minister for Energy, the now Leader of the Opposition. I refused to break the law and to do some sort of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, secret deal” on the tariffs. On the question - Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: Members opposite are still carrying a torch for Epic Energy. It is gone! It made a bad deal and it has gone out backwards! I feel sorry for its staff because it had good technical people working for it; however, they were let down by the people who made the financial decisions. In particular, Epic Energy has come out of whatever understandings it had with the previous Government in a very bad way. I resisted calls from the Opposition for me to corruptly influence the tariff setting process, to corruptly break the law of this State and to break an agreement entered into by the coalition Government and every other Government in this country not to deviate from the question of independent gas access regulation. I stuck to the agreement, even though it had been entered into by our predecessors. I stuck to the law, even though the law had been put through the Parliament by the then Minister for Energy, the now Leader of the Opposition. I refused to break the law and to do some sort of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, secret deal” on the tariffs. On the question - Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Members opposite are still carrying a torch for Epic Energy. It is gone! It made a bad deal and it has gone out backwards! I feel sorry for its staff because it had good technical people working for it; however, they were let down by the people who made the financial decisions. In particular, Epic Energy has come out of whatever understandings it had with the previous Government in a very bad way. I resisted calls from the Opposition for me to corruptly influence the tariff setting process, to corruptly break the law of this State and to break an agreement entered into by the coalition Government and every other Government in this country not to deviate from the question of independent gas access regulation. I stuck to the agreement, even though it had been entered into by our predecessors. I stuck to the law, even though the law had been put through the Parliament by the then Minister for Energy, the now Leader of the Opposition. I refused to break the law and to do some sort of “nudge, nudge, wink, wink, secret deal” on the tariffs. On the question - Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr C.J. Barnett: What secret deal? Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: I refused to do the sort of secret deal that the Leader of the Opposition wanted me to do. He should not deny that. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: Do not deny it. The Leader of the Opposition knows exactly what I am talking about - he had better not go there. On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
On the question of tariffs on the pipeline, the regulated regime still applies. The regulator still has authority. Nevertheless, the gas access regime has always provided for agreements between shippers and operators of pipelines. If shippers and operators can reach agreement, those agreements take priority over the regulated rate. The regulator is like a fall back should agreement fail to be reached. Of course, the issue is much more complicated than the Leader of the National Party has indicated. In quoting the figure of 78c, he is way behind what happened with the regulator in due course. Although most lay people assume that transporting gas through a pipeline is a simple process, there are different types of services. We have to be very careful when comparing tariffs that we do not compare the price of one service with the price of another service. Western Power has a particular requirement - Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mrs C.L. Edwardes: Do you understand all this? Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Mr E.S. RIPPER: Yes, I do. Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
Western Power has a particular requirement for a particular type of service. As a result of Western Power’s profile of gas usage - it has a lot of peak usage due to its electricity supply responsibility and there is a lot of potential for overrun and so on - it needs a particular type of service. Western Power has negotiated commercially. It has told me two things: first, that the tariff point, which begins the deal, is lower than the regulator’s indicative tariff for that type of service; and, second, that it has negotiated robustly and commercially and in a way that will deliver an improvement to Western Power’s bottom line. Well done Western Power.
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Tabled Papers
Reports and documents tabled in Parliament.
Committees
Committee profiles and recent reports.
Regulations
Subsidiary legislation with filters and summaries.
Bills
Proposed laws and parliamentary progress.
Acts
Current WA legislation and summaries.
Explanatory Memoranda
Bills with EMs (text/PDF) available.
Members
MP profiles, party breakdown and rankings.
Pollie Rankings
Data-driven rankings across 19 categories.
Amendment Chains
Track how schemes and regulations evolve over time.