❓ Mr Cook questions the Minister for Health's commitment to retaining services at Bentley Hospital, particularly maternity services, after 2014. Dr Hames deflects by highlighting the previous Labor government's plans to close obstetric services at the same hospital, committing to review closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital.
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BENTLEY HOSPITAL — serviceS closure
I refer to the minister’s backflip in announcing that elective surgery at Bentley Hospital would be retained after 2014 under his now somewhat rubbery clinical services framework. Will the minister now also commit to continuing all other services targeted for closure at Bentley Hospital, and in particular, given the concern of women across the area, will the minister now also commit to retaining maternity services at Bentley Hospital beyond 2014; and, if not, why not? Dr K.D. HAMES
I refer to the minister’s backflip in announcing that elective surgery at Bentley Hospital would be retained after 2014 under his now somewhat rubbery clinical services framework. Will the minister now also commit to continuing all other services targeted for closure at Bentley Hospital, and in particular, given the concern of women across the area, will the minister now also commit to retaining maternity services at Bentley Hospital beyond 2014; and, if not, why not? Dr K.D. HAMES
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What an absolute cheek! When we were in opposition the 2005 clinical services framework was brought out by none other than the then Minister for Health for the Labor Party, Hon Jim McGinty. He put out a proposal saying what he was going to do. What was in it for Bentley Hospital was the cancellation of obstetric services. He was going to cancel them. I thought that it did not look right. I thought I would ask around to see what the people in the area thought about it. I asked myself whether I was going to go out and do the usual opposition thing and slam that rotten Minister for Health in the former government for shutting obstetric services. I talked to those groups and to local members of Parliament, and they said that it was not an issue. This is not a big deal. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: What an absolute cheek! When we were in opposition the 2005 clinical services framework was brought out by none other than the then Minister for Health for the Labor Party, Hon Jim McGinty. He put out a proposal saying what he was going to do. What was in it for Bentley Hospital was the cancellation of obstetric services. He was going to cancel them. I thought that it did not look right. I thought I would ask around to see what the people in the area thought about it. I asked myself whether I was going to go out and do the usual opposition thing and slam that rotten Minister for Health in the former government for shutting obstetric services. I talked to those groups and to local members of Parliament, and they said that it was not an issue. This is not a big deal. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
What an absolute cheek! When we were in opposition the 2005 clinical services framework was brought out by none other than the then Minister for Health for the Labor Party, Hon Jim McGinty. He put out a proposal saying what he was going to do. What was in it for Bentley Hospital was the cancellation of obstetric services. He was going to cancel them. I thought that it did not look right. I thought I would ask around to see what the people in the area thought about it. I asked myself whether I was going to go out and do the usual opposition thing and slam that rotten Minister for Health in the former government for shutting obstetric services. I talked to those groups and to local members of Parliament, and they said that it was not an issue. This is not a big deal. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: What an absolute cheek! When we were in opposition the 2005 clinical services framework was brought out by none other than the then Minister for Health for the Labor Party, Hon Jim McGinty. He put out a proposal saying what he was going to do. What was in it for Bentley Hospital was the cancellation of obstetric services. He was going to cancel them. I thought that it did not look right. I thought I would ask around to see what the people in the area thought about it. I asked myself whether I was going to go out and do the usual opposition thing and slam that rotten Minister for Health in the former government for shutting obstetric services. I talked to those groups and to local members of Parliament, and they said that it was not an issue. This is not a big deal. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
What an absolute cheek! When we were in opposition the 2005 clinical services framework was brought out by none other than the then Minister for Health for the Labor Party, Hon Jim McGinty. He put out a proposal saying what he was going to do. What was in it for Bentley Hospital was the cancellation of obstetric services. He was going to cancel them. I thought that it did not look right. I thought I would ask around to see what the people in the area thought about it. I asked myself whether I was going to go out and do the usual opposition thing and slam that rotten Minister for Health in the former government for shutting obstetric services. I talked to those groups and to local members of Parliament, and they said that it was not an issue. This is not a big deal. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me. Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : The member for Victoria Park was not in Parliament. Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : You never spoke to me! Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : That is because he was not there! Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : When did you go out? Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : When he announced the clinical services framework. The member agreed with it, did he not? Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Agreed with what? Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : His minister’s announcement to shut obstetric services at Bentley Hospital. Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I agree with your decision to bring back elective surgery but I do not agree with what else you have done. Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Did the member agree with his minister’s announcement, when he put out the 2005 clinical services framework, that he would be closing obstetric services at Bentley Hospital? Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : I do not agree with where you are taking it. Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Where was the member? If he was there, where was his voice? We hear his voice often enough now. Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : Where are you taking it? Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I will tell the member where I am taking it. The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
The other thing the minister did at the time, despite promising not to shut Woodside Maternity Hospital until obstetric services were open at Fiona Stanley Hospital, was to shut down Woodside Maternity Hospital, despite strong opposition from the community. I was out there the other day because the clinical services framework did say that waitlist surgery services were going to be shut at that hospital. I have looked through the statistics that have come out since then, talking about the development in that area, and I have said that we will not do that any more but we will retain those services. The member would not have seen all the television footage, but it was there—so I am on record as saying this. The mayor was there and asked me what I was going to do about obstetric services. My response was that when it was proposed that they would be closed, the feeling was that the population was not adequate enough to support services other than the maternity services that we are going to provide, which were not going to be provided under the member’s former government until 2020. We are providing them in 2015, some five years earlier. It was said that there was not enough to warrant having them at Bentley Hospital as well. I committed to waiting until we got closer to the opening of Fiona Stanley Hospital and then looking at population growth and delivery numbers and making a decision. I have done that because I strongly oppose the closure of Osborne Park Hospital maternity services. The member’s minister was also shutting down maternity services at Osborne Park where there are 1 000 deliveries a year. In my view that was a severe detriment to the local community, so I have committed to reconsidering that when we get closer to the time of opening the obstetric services at Fiona Stanley Hospital based on demand of population growth.
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