❓ Hon. Norman Moore questions the Minister for Education and Training, Hon. Ljiljanna Ravlich, regarding the handling of misconduct allegations against 16 staff members, accusing her of being uninformed. The Minister defends the department's procedures and due process.
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DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND TRAINING STAFF - ALLEGATIONS OF MISCONDUCT
I refer to my question without notice 75 of yesterday about a number of staff members who have been relocated from schools to districts and to head office. (1) In view of the fact that the matter of the 16 staff has been raised at least three times in this house, will the minister provide me with a written answer to my question asked yesterday? (2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
I refer to my question without notice 75 of yesterday about a number of staff members who have been relocated from schools to districts and to head office. (1) In view of the fact that the matter of the 16 staff has been raised at least three times in this house, will the minister provide me with a written answer to my question asked yesterday? (2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH
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I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(1) In view of the fact that the matter of the 16 staff has been raised at least three times in this house, will the minister provide me with a written answer to my question asked yesterday? (2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(1) In view of the fact that the matter of the 16 staff has been raised at least three times in this house, will the minister provide me with a written answer to my question asked yesterday? (2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(2) What are the usual operational procedures used by the Department of Education and Training for dealing with school staff about whom allegations of child abuse have been made? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
I thank the member for that question. (1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
(1)-(2) I do not resile from the response I gave yesterday in principle, in that these matters are being dealt with by the department. Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : You need to know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do know what is going on. Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : That’s why I asked you to tell me yesterday. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore wanted to know what had happened with each of the 16 staff. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know generally. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Allegations of assault are referred by DET to the police. If there are other issues, they are referred to the appropriate agency to be investigated. The member will be aware that the department must follow procedures and guidelines when allegations are made against a teacher or an officer. It is very important that they be followed. Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want you to tell me what they are. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Hon Norman Moore will be aware that people against whom allegations are made are entitled to due process and procedural fairness, and to be dealt with in an equitable manner. I am not exactly sure what is happening to the district officers. I am not sure where the 16 officers are located. Some might be located in the district office, and others might be in the head office. Certainly if allegations of sexual misconduct were made, they would not be in close proximity to children. Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : We know that; that is why they have been relocated. You still haven’t answered my question. Will you give me an answer to the written question I asked yesterday? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If the Leader of the Opposition wanted a written answer, I cannot understand why - Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what you know about what’s going on in your department, and I have discovered that you don’t know what’s going on. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I know what the Leader of the Opposition wants to know. I am just saying that certain procedures are followed in this house. Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : You should know about these things. You should not just obfuscate. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : This house has certain conventions and procedures. The honourable member has been a member for a lot longer than I have. Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Ken Travers : He’s a dinosaur. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : He is a dinosaur. The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
The PRESIDENT : Order, honourable member! Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : Quite right. I might be a dinosaur, but I’m not a Godfather. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Given that the question was asked without notice yesterday, I did my best to provide the information. Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to know what’s happening to those 16 people. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : The Leader of the Opposition wants me to provide a written answer, yet he has asked me another question without notice. I could have had a written answer prepared for him, and I would be happy to do that; however, he knows the procedures of this house. He could have asked for it to be put on notice. Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon Norman Moore : I want to expose the fact that you know nothing about what is going on in your department. You know nothing. It is a very serious issue and you should be on top of it. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : For goodness sake! Get real.
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