❓ Question addresses the prevalence and effects of the synthetic cannabinoid drug Kronic, seeking information on the minister's awareness, actions taken, and plans for scheduling it as an illicit drug. The Minister's response is defensive and deflects blame.
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KRONIC — SYNTHETIC CANNABINOID DRUG
I refer to the alarming prevalence of the synthetic cannabinoid drug Kronic and its effects, including paranoia, short-term fatigue, agitation and anxiety, and the latest report by the Australian Crime Commission that these drugs will continue to pose challenges to health and law enforcement authorities. (1) When was the minister first made aware of the prevalence of Kronic? (2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I refer to the alarming prevalence of the synthetic cannabinoid drug Kronic and its effects, including paranoia, short-term fatigue, agitation and anxiety, and the latest report by the Australian Crime Commission that these drugs will continue to pose challenges to health and law enforcement authorities. (1) When was the minister first made aware of the prevalence of Kronic? (2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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(1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(1) When was the minister first made aware of the prevalence of Kronic? (2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(1) When was the minister first made aware of the prevalence of Kronic? (2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(2) What actions has the minister taken to stop its escalation? (3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(3) Will the minister be scheduling it as an illicit drug; and, if not, why not? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
(1)–(3) I thank the member for the question. When did I become aware of it? About a month or so ago I became aware that it was becoming a problem not only in Western Australia but in fact throughout the world, as I am told. It is something that I have discussed with the Minister for Mental Health, Hon Helen Morton. Obviously I have also been discussing this with the Commissioner of Police. I have not had a meeting with him this week yet. Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Ms M.M. Quirk : Sorry, minister. Who are you discussing it with? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I have discussed it with Hon Helen Morton. I will be discussing it with the commissioner. I have not had a meeting with him as yet this week, but I am hoping to have one before the week is out. It is certainly on my agenda to discuss that. We would do whatever is necessary to try to prevent the harm that that particular — Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Ms M.M. Quirk : It is too late. This is everywhere. You are doing nothing about it. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member says it is too late. Hers was the government that allowed people to grow two plants per person per household to smoke themselves to death with cannabis. That is what the opposition was doing. God said unto them, “Come unto me with clean hands”. The member should wash her hands, because she and the rest of her colleagues allowed people to drink and to smoke cannabis to their hearts’ content. Members opposite should be ashamed of themselves. What am I doing? I will tell members — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : The member for Girrawheen has asked a question that she would like to have an answer to. I think a lot of people in this place would like information about this. I am hearing the minister endeavouring to answer it. There are people in this place who apparently have better answers to provide. There will be only one answer, and that is going to come from the Minister for Police. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As I said, this government takes drugs very seriously—more seriously than members opposite do! Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Obviously by that I mean that we take seriously those people who take drugs and that we will deal with not only people who take drugs, but also people who manufacture them and people who sell them. Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr M. McGowan : That explains a lot! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : As opposed to that lot over there who are soft on drugs and soft on crime, we are the complete reverse. Let me assure members of that. I think the people of WA appreciate that. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen, if you want to ask a supplementary question, I will endeavour to give you an opportunity to do that. There are members in this place who keep on drowning out the minister. The minister is endeavouring to answer the question. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
The SPEAKER : I formally call you to order for the first time, member for Bassendean. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will conclude my answer because I am sure that there will be a supplementary question. My final remarks are that we will take seriously any actions that we need to put in place to deal with that new — Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr E.S. Ripper : No policy yet! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a stupid comment from a very — Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Several members interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a dopey comment! What a dopey, dopey comment! I will not say any more. We will deal very seriously with any problems that there are with any new drugs that come on the market.
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