❓ Questioning the Minister for Emergency Services on reconciling statements regarding FESA's preparedness and training deficits. The Minister defends the government's actions and deflects criticism, leading to heated exchanges.
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FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AUTHORITY — CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER — COMMENT
I refer to the recent statement by Wayne Gregson that he was “gobsmacked” with some of the inadequacies of the Fire and Emergency Services Authority and also to the Premier’s statement on 21 October 2009 that Western Australia was “well placed to respond to bushfires”. (1) How can the minister reconcile the two statements? (2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
I refer to the recent statement by Wayne Gregson that he was “gobsmacked” with some of the inadequacies of the Fire and Emergency Services Authority and also to the Premier’s statement on 21 October 2009 that Western Australia was “well placed to respond to bushfires”. (1) How can the minister reconcile the two statements? (2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON
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(1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(1) How can the minister reconcile the two statements? (2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(1) How can the minister reconcile the two statements? (2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(2) When was the minister personally aware of serious training deficits? (3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(3) What steps did the minister take to expedite decision making at FESA? Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON replied: (1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
(1)–(3) I thank the member for some notice of this question. When Wayne Gregson was taken on as the new CEO on a 12-month contract, I asked him specifically to find any deficiencies, to analyse everything about the structure of FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : We are asking you what you knew. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member wanted to know what I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : What you knew. Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr P. Papalia : Did he turn around and ask you to quit? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : What a silly, silly question. I am trying to answer the member for Girrawheen’s question. I asked Wayne Gregson to see exactly whether there were any deficiencies and to highlight those problems and come to me so that I could give him assistance, as the minister, to carry out his job very efficiently, and I am very confident that he will do that. Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr E.S. Ripper : So you were not aware of the problems before that? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Was the Leader of the Opposition aware of the problems? Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr E.S. Ripper : You’re the minister. Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : If you’d bothered to talk to the union, you might have known. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The union has different views from people in FESA and perhaps the government. I do not think there is a problem between the unions and FESA now. Wayne Gregson has brought to me all his plans and ideas about how he intends to restructure FESA and its operational officers. I think it is a great idea and that a great system will be put in place. Was I aware of problems before? I was not aware of any serious problems before, at all. Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : You were not aware of any serious problems? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Not before, no. Was the member aware of any serious problems before? Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : What about these major incident reviews? Didn’t you read them? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Yes, of course I did. Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : They identified problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : They identified problems that FESA was taking initiatives on. FESA was taking care of those and working on them. It was not until the Keelty report came along that that specific inquiry identified where there were more problems. The member for Girrawheen was not aware of them before that. Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was—from Boorabbin. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member was not! Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Yes, I was. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Boorabbin? Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : And Toodyay. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : That was the FESA response, was it not? Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : They were all FESA issues. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I think Boorabbin was a Department of Environment and Conservation issue, not a FESA issue. Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : There were communication issues between DEC and FESA. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I am not wishing to apportion blame for anything. Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : How about Toodyay? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : FESA did quite a good job in Toodyay. Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Have you read the major incident review? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : There were some small areas that the reviewer found. Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : So there were problems. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : And they were dealt with. The member for Girrawheen is such a negative person. When we identify problems, we actually deal with them. In nearly eight years, the former government did nothing in that area—nothing at all. We have taken some very bold steps that we are putting in place. We are funding it properly and giving resources to DEC and FESA — Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : And what about training? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Training is taking place. Of course it is; it is essential. That was one of the Keelty recommendations. Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Ms M.M. Quirk : Gregson said that there was no training. There are problems. Which is it? Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The member asked me a question and I have tried to give her an answer, but she is trying to answer it for me, so I will just wait for the supplementary question. Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
Mrs L.M. HARVEY : Mr Speaker —
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