Opposition questions Minister on alleged policy change regarding parliamentary scrutiny of minor planning amendments, specifically concerning a rail link project and MRS amendment No 1060/33A. The Parliamentary Secretary defends the government's actions, citing precedent and consultation improvements.

AnsweredQoN 243Legislative Council
Asked
16 October 2002
Portfolio
Planning and Infrastructure

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I refer to the minister’s statements in another place on 11 October 2000 when, in her capacity as shadow Minister for Planning, she stated in support of Labor’s Metropolitan Region Town Planning Scheme Amendment Bill 2000 that - Often these minor amendments would otherwise be regarded as not being substantial under section 33A of the Act and, as a result, not subject to parliamentary scrutiny. . . . Members on this side will continue to support this policy - That is, the coalition Government’s policy - to ensure that all amendments to the MRS are brought before the Parliament to undergo parliamentary scrutiny. (1) Has the minister’s position on bringing all minor amendments to the Parliament changed since coming to office; and, if so, why? (2) If the minister has not changed her view on such amendments, why is she trying to subvert proper planning approval processes on the contentious freeway portion of the southern rail link and avoid the scrutiny of the Parliament on MRS amendment No 1060/33A? (3) Is the minister aware that amendment No 1060/33A is in fact so substantial and broad in its scope that it will allow for the construction of rail along hundreds of metropolitan roads - coloured in blue and red on the MRS plan - without development approval? The PRESIDENT: I call the parliamentary secretary, but in doing so I note that questions are becoming increasingly argumentative and arguably outside the standing orders. The parliamentary secretary can address those parts of the question that are in order Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD

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Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
. . . Members on this side will continue to support this policy -
Members on this side will continue to support this policy -
(2) If the minister has not changed her view on such amendments, why is she trying to subvert proper planning approval processes on the contentious freeway portion of the southern rail link and avoid the scrutiny of the Parliament on MRS amendment No 1060/33A? (3) Is the minister aware that amendment No 1060/33A is in fact so substantial and broad in its scope that it will allow for the construction of rail along hundreds of metropolitan roads - coloured in blue and red on the MRS plan - without development approval? The PRESIDENT: I call the parliamentary secretary, but in doing so I note that questions are becoming increasingly argumentative and arguably outside the standing orders. The parliamentary secretary can address those parts of the question that are in order Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD replied: Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
(3) Is the minister aware that amendment No 1060/33A is in fact so substantial and broad in its scope that it will allow for the construction of rail along hundreds of metropolitan roads - coloured in blue and red on the MRS plan - without development approval? The PRESIDENT: I call the parliamentary secretary, but in doing so I note that questions are becoming increasingly argumentative and arguably outside the standing orders. The parliamentary secretary can address those parts of the question that are in order Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD replied: Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
The PRESIDENT: I call the parliamentary secretary, but in doing so I note that questions are becoming increasingly argumentative and arguably outside the standing orders. The parliamentary secretary can address those parts of the question that are in order Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD replied: Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD replied: Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Thank you, Mr President. I thank the member for some notice of this question. I suppose I am getting used to argumentative questions. The minister advises as follows - (1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
(1) The coalition Government proceeded with 24 minor amendments during its term. It also grouped minor amendments in omnibus major amendments. The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process - An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
An opposition member interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: We have indeed. Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon Norman Moore: They are all laughing when you say that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: I was not laughing. Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon Peter Foss interjected. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: Just shut up! The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The Government intends to follow the same pattern, but has strengthened the consultation process by allowing public hearings on minor amendments and advising the local member of Parliament when an amendment is advertised. Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon Ken Travers: Members opposite never did that. Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
Hon GRAHAM GIFFARD: The previous Government never did that. (2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
(2) The opinion of the Western Australian Planning Commission is that MRS amendment No 1060/33A should proceed as a minor amendment. There is no attempt to subvert the proper planning approval processes. (3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.
(3) Under the Public Works Act 1902, any new railway needs a special Act to be passed by both Houses of Parliament.

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