❓ Question regarding alleged undisclosed payments to Kempe Group for work on the Muja AB refurbishment project, leading to heated exchanges and accusations of lying in parliament.
AnsweredQoN 277Legislative Assembly
QuestionView source ↗
MUJA AB — REFURBISHMENT — KEMPE
GROUP
277. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON to the Minister for
Energy:
I have a supplementary question. Why
is it that the minister has spoken seven times on the Muja scandal and never
once mentioned in his words to this chamber and to the people of Western
Australia that Kempe Group was paid an additional 20 per cent on top of its
contracted amount for the work on the project that it paid $80 000 for a share
of?
GROUP
277. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON to the Minister for
Energy:
I have a supplementary question. Why
is it that the minister has spoken seven times on the Muja scandal and never
once mentioned in his words to this chamber and to the people of Western
Australia that Kempe Group was paid an additional 20 per cent on top of its
contracted amount for the work on the project that it paid $80 000 for a share
of?
AnswerView source ↗
The member is trying. Kempe signed a
contract for $110 million. There were variations to the contract and those
variations were accepted by both parties.
Point of Order
Mr
W.J. JOHNSTON : The question that I asked was not about the contract; it was
about the behaviour of the minister. The minister was asked why he has never
explained this amount of money to the chamber. I have asked the minister to
tell us why he has not told anyone in this state about this matter, not whether
it was included in a report, but whether he has told it.
Mr
J.M. Francis interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Jandakot, points of order are to be heard in silence. I
call you to order for the first time. Minister, through the Chair, if you are
going to answer that question.
Questions without Notice Resumed
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : The member is a trier. Last year when I tabled both the
engineering report and the KPMG report, they itemised in detail separately that
there were variations in the engineering, procurement and construction contract
and $21.3 million was disclosed. They disclosed variations. The member for
Cannington might not have read it or, if he read it, he did not want to
understand it. The fact is that it has been disclosed for nine months. It is
well known; it is legal; it is part of the contract and variations are common.
There is no secret; there is no conspiracy. He just does not like to admit that
he was completely wrong and misled the public of Western Australia about this
contract. If the member thinks this is an albatross around my head —
Mr
W.J. Johnston : I told the truth, unlike you, because you're a liar.
You lie in this chamber all the time.
Withdrawal of Remark
The
SPEAKER : Thank you, member for Cannington! First of all, I want you to
retract the words ''You lie in this chamber all the time.''
Mr W.J. JOHNSTON :
I withdraw.
The SPEAKER : I now
call you to order for the third time. Minister, can you wind this up.
Questions without
Notice Resumed
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : The member for Cannington needs to apologise for repeatedly
calling me a liar.
The SPEAKER : He
has withdrawn that statement.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : The
member for Cannington thinks that this is an albatross around my neck. It was a
tough decision, but that is what leadership is all about.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : He
is an albatross.
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : This albatross is flying and it is coming his way.
contract for $110 million. There were variations to the contract and those
variations were accepted by both parties.
Point of Order
Mr
W.J. JOHNSTON : The question that I asked was not about the contract; it was
about the behaviour of the minister. The minister was asked why he has never
explained this amount of money to the chamber. I have asked the minister to
tell us why he has not told anyone in this state about this matter, not whether
it was included in a report, but whether he has told it.
Mr
J.M. Francis interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Jandakot, points of order are to be heard in silence. I
call you to order for the first time. Minister, through the Chair, if you are
going to answer that question.
Questions without Notice Resumed
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : The member is a trier. Last year when I tabled both the
engineering report and the KPMG report, they itemised in detail separately that
there were variations in the engineering, procurement and construction contract
and $21.3 million was disclosed. They disclosed variations. The member for
Cannington might not have read it or, if he read it, he did not want to
understand it. The fact is that it has been disclosed for nine months. It is
well known; it is legal; it is part of the contract and variations are common.
There is no secret; there is no conspiracy. He just does not like to admit that
he was completely wrong and misled the public of Western Australia about this
contract. If the member thinks this is an albatross around my head —
Mr
W.J. Johnston : I told the truth, unlike you, because you're a liar.
You lie in this chamber all the time.
Withdrawal of Remark
The
SPEAKER : Thank you, member for Cannington! First of all, I want you to
retract the words ''You lie in this chamber all the time.''
Mr W.J. JOHNSTON :
I withdraw.
The SPEAKER : I now
call you to order for the third time. Minister, can you wind this up.
Questions without
Notice Resumed
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : The member for Cannington needs to apologise for repeatedly
calling me a liar.
The SPEAKER : He
has withdrawn that statement.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : The
member for Cannington thinks that this is an albatross around my neck. It was a
tough decision, but that is what leadership is all about.
Mr B.S. Wyatt : He
is an albatross.
Dr
M.D. NAHAN : This albatross is flying and it is coming his way.
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