❓ Question on Notice regarding suicide rates in WA, focusing on the accuracy of the Minister's statements and the interpretation of suicide statistics. The Minister's response is highly defensive and avoids directly answering the questions, instead attacking the questioner's credibility.
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SUICIDE RATES
I refer to the Kalgoorlie Miner article of 30 April 2011 titled “Suicide claims rejected” in which the minister is reported to have said — … there was no evidence to suggest the rate of suicide in WA had increased as claimed by mental health Opposition spokeswoman … “In fact, evidence shows the rate is decreasing,” I ask — (1) Why did the minister make such a claim when she knew this not to be true? (2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON
I refer to the Kalgoorlie Miner article of 30 April 2011 titled “Suicide claims rejected” in which the minister is reported to have said — … there was no evidence to suggest the rate of suicide in WA had increased as claimed by mental health Opposition spokeswoman … “In fact, evidence shows the rate is decreasing,” I ask — (1) Why did the minister make such a claim when she knew this not to be true? (2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON
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(1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
“In fact, evidence shows the rate is decreasing,”
(1) Why did the minister make such a claim when she knew this not to be true? (2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
“In fact, evidence shows the rate is decreasing,”
(1) Why did the minister make such a claim when she knew this not to be true? (2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(2) Where is the evidence to show that suicide rates are decreasing; will the minister table that information; and, if not, why not? (3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(3) Given that information from the Attorney General’s office shows that there have been 158 suicides for the first three months of this year, compared with a total of 254 for the whole of last year, will the minister now acknowledge that we have a crisis on our hands; and, if not, why not? The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : That was a question without notice? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Yes. Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
(1)–(3) Thank you, very much, Mr President. I have to again say—I just cannot help it—that the member is a very silly person. She continues to lose — The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, that is not out of order, but is it not constructive either. It is not a constructive way to start an answer—if I can say that to the minister. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you. Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Perhaps, when I explain what this member of Parliament has done, Mr President will perhaps understand why I can hardly not make these claims. I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
I cannot believe that the opposition spokesperson on mental health continues to lose such credibility in the eyes of the people of Western Australia. Today, she has brought shame on not only herself, but all members of Parliament by her irresponsible and deliberate scaremongering in the community about the rates of suicide. I warned the member not to do this! I begged her to get a research officer to look into the information so that she could have some credibility — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question. Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ken Travers interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : So that she could at least have some credibility before she went out and made these comments. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich will use any misinterpreted figure to get some sort of media coverage. She knows no shame about this sort of information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : She was told that these figures were provisional! Commonsense alone would have led her to believe that these figures were incorrect. Just commonsense! Any sensible person would have realised that — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Just answer the question Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : You are getting it. The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Minister, if you direct your comments through the chair, to me, I promise that I will not interject on you. Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Thank you, Mr President. Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Everybody needs to hear this information. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Commonsense would have said that the member was being stupid, but still the member decided to extrapolate provisional information for a full year and suggest that somehow or other 600 plus people would die from suicide in Western Australia this year. She knows that the average rate of suicide, as tragic as it is, is about 260 persons a year. Commonsense alone would have said that the member had her information wrong. But no, she is out there on radio and in the newspaper. The lack of shame, lack of sensitivity, lack of intelligence and lack of credibility continues. Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ken Travers : Answer the question! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Answer the question! The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Mr President, some causes of death in Western Australia require further investigation; therefore, they are coded as potential suicide or homicide or misadventure or accident et cetera and, where appropriate, referred to the State Coroner for investigation. These coronial investigations can take up to two years and the member was told that many times. That means that if a deceased person is found — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : As the coroner’s office investigates the circumstances of a death, factors may become evident that make it apparent that the death did not result from suicide. For example, if it were determined that the deceased did not intend to kill themself, suicide is ruled out. These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
These 2011 figures that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich cites are very new and she was told that they were provisional. I do not think that she has been onto the database and I do not know where she got this information from. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : I know the member did not, because she cannot. The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Let us get the answer completed without any further interjections. Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Accordingly, the present number of cases coded as potential suicides from 1 January to 31 March is 56. The member has extrapolated 158 and multiplied it by four and come up with the 600-odd figure. The number is significantly down from the 158, as stated in a parliamentary question in May, although those figures from the Attorney General were accurate at the time. The member was told that they were provisional figures and that she could not extrapolate those figures for the whole year. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Hon HELEN MORTON : It was. I have read it many times. It is important to note that all these recorded suspected figures are provisional figures. Some go as far back as 2006 and they are still being scaled down to the correct figure. The member has been told that many times but she cannot help herself. She must pick up some provisional information, extrapolate it across a full year and come up with the stupid figure of 600-odd. She is scaremongering when she tells the whole of Western Australia that the number of suicides in Western Australia has gone up from an average of 260 a year to 600 in one year. Commonsense alone would tell members that that is stupid, but this member does not get it. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
The PRESIDENT : Order! We have two weeks of sitting left. We have not got off to a very good start today.
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