❓ A WA parliamentary question on notice regarding the Minister for Energy's previous statements on climate change, wind farms, renewable energy certificates, and nuclear power in the Pilbara. The Minister's response is evasive and argumentative.
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I note that the minister has now acknowledged that he was wrong to say that climate change was not caused by human-induced carbon pollution. (1) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australia has too many wind farms? (2) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australians should buy renewable energy certificates from east coast renewable energy projects instead of building their own projects? Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN
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(1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(1) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australia has too many wind farms? (2) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australians should buy renewable energy certificates from east coast renewable energy projects instead of building their own projects? Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(2) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australians should buy renewable energy certificates from east coast renewable energy projects instead of building their own projects? Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(1) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australia has too many wind farms? (2) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australians should buy renewable energy certificates from east coast renewable energy projects instead of building their own projects? Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(2) Was the minister wrong to say that Western Australians should buy renewable energy certificates from east coast renewable energy projects instead of building their own projects? Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mr F.A. Alban interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Member for Swan Hills, I call you to order for the first time. Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mr W.J. JOHNSTON : To continue — (3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(3) Was the minister also wrong when he said that there should be a nuclear power station in the Pilbara? Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN replied: (1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
(1)–(3) After four years as shadow energy spokesman, the member finally made a speech last night. It was late in the night, and it was a long night for many people, and many people fell asleep, but he showed a complete lack of knowledge — Point of Order Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Mr Speaker — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members. Points of order are to be heard in silence. Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Mrs M.H. ROBERTS : Quite specific questions were asked by the member for Cannington, but the moment this minister gets to his feet he goes into story time—some pre-prepared diatribe of personal attack. It is not answering the question. That is my point of order. The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you. Through the Chair, a quick answer. Questions without Notice Resumed Dr M.D. NAHAN : As people want to sing songs, what comes to my mind is Is That All There Is? Four years of wasted space — The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Minister, that question had four parts to it. Just address the four parts. Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : I need to put this in the proper context. The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Okay, now let us go. Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : It is hardly worth responding to, but I will do so. Firstly, to meet the large-scale renewable energy target, Synergy will purchase the large-scale long-run renewable energy requirements dictated by the commonwealth. It will do that, and it is up to date right now. My priority is to have those adhered to, or purchased in Western Australia. At times, because that requires around 500 megawatts to be purchased up to 2020–21—it is a large purchase, and that is a significant rate of increase—there might be some that need to be purchased interstate. Almost all organisations buy and sell on the market constantly to meet the requirement. The member for Cannington should know that, but he is more a propagandist than a politician. That is my commitment. Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Wind farms. Under our watch, Synergy has not only facilitated wind farms—Mumbida and other ones—but we have opened them, we have invested in them, we have expanded them, and Synergy has considered investing in them. An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
An opposition member: So were you wrong? Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : There are problems with wind farms. Look at South Australia, where they ran out of energy. The price of energy went up to $1 400. I am cognisant that there are problems with too high a dominance of wind, but I never have argued that we should eliminate them altogether. I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
I might add that people out there are going to be pushing large scale very heavily. That is what they are geeing up to and that is what this is all about. But I can tell members that we have had four days of the highest consumption of electricity ever this year—four of them—and on each one of those days, the wind contributed zero energy at peak load. That is because, as we know, in Western Australia, the Fremantle doctor is not in and the easterly is not blowing when it is very hot. So, if we rely too much on wind, we are going to undermine the whole electricity system. I did not say do none of it. It requires balance. The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Minister, I want a quick answer, please. We are running out of time. Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : He asked four questions. The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Right. Well, four short answers. Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : As to climate change, it is real. Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : Okay? You people believed it before the evidence. I believed it once the evidence had come. I base my judgement on evidence. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
The SPEAKER : Thank you! Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : Maggie Thatcher was always a believer in climate change. Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr A.D. Buti : She’s your hero! Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
Dr M.D. NAHAN : She is. She was a great woman.
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