A parliamentary question regarding Western Power's infrastructure upgrade plans in Carnarvon sparks a debate over Standing Order No 140 and the admissibility of the question. The Minister provides details of completed and planned upgrades.

AnsweredQoN 80Legislative Council
Asked
16 August 2000
Portfolio
Resources Development

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The Leader of the Opposition recently claimed during a speech in this House that Western Power has no plans to upgrade the utility’s infrastructure in Carnarvon. Can the minister confirm if this is true? Point of Order HON TOM STEPHENS: I draw the attention of the House to Standing Order No 140. If the Government wishes to reply to a debate in this House it is done during the Address-in-Reply debate, not during question time. It is specifically ruled out of order by that standing order. The PRESIDENT: I am certainly aware of Standing Order No 140. It is a case of the context in which a question is put. The member is seeking advice on an issue raised in this House - it happens every day of the week when members refer to something that has been said previously by another member in the House. If the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that there should be a literal interpretation of that standing order, members will be so severely restricted when asking questions that question time will almost become a non-event. From time to time members may not like the questions asked, and from time to time members indicate to me they certainly do not like the answers that are given. However, if there were a literal interpretation of this standing order, the situation would be quite disastrous. I am more than happy to hear from the Leader of the Opposition because I think it is something worth discussing. HON TOM STEPHENS: The Government has the opportunity to reply to the Address-in-Reply debate any time it chooses. It seems to me that putting this standing order in that context is an exact example of how it should be applied to this question. The PRESIDENT: I am suggesting that it has been the practice of the House to enable members to seek further information on matters that are raised from time to time. I do not want to make a big deal out of it, but I am suggesting that if we were to literally interpret this standing order, members could not ask a question about almost anything on the Notice Paper for fear of anticipation, or on the basis that someone had said something at some time during the session. Question time would be quite unworkable. I do not know what the answer is, let alone what the import of the question is, but I invite the Leader of the House to answer the question. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon N.F. MOORE

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I thank the member for some notice of this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
The PRESIDENT: I am certainly aware of Standing Order No 140. It is a case of the context in which a question is put. The member is seeking advice on an issue raised in this House - it happens every day of the week when members refer to something that has been said previously by another member in the House. If the Leader of the Opposition is suggesting that there should be a literal interpretation of that standing order, members will be so severely restricted when asking questions that question time will almost become a non-event. From time to time members may not like the questions asked, and from time to time members indicate to me they certainly do not like the answers that are given. However, if there were a literal interpretation of this standing order, the situation would be quite disastrous. I am more than happy to hear from the Leader of the Opposition because I think it is something worth discussing. HON TOM STEPHENS: The Government has the opportunity to reply to the Address-in-Reply debate any time it chooses. It seems to me that putting this standing order in that context is an exact example of how it should be applied to this question. The PRESIDENT: I am suggesting that it has been the practice of the House to enable members to seek further information on matters that are raised from time to time. I do not want to make a big deal out of it, but I am suggesting that if we were to literally interpret this standing order, members could not ask a question about almost anything on the Notice Paper for fear of anticipation, or on the basis that someone had said something at some time during the session. Question time would be quite unworkable. I do not know what the answer is, let alone what the import of the question is, but I invite the Leader of the House to answer the question. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon N.F. MOORE replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
HON TOM STEPHENS: The Government has the opportunity to reply to the Address-in-Reply debate any time it chooses. It seems to me that putting this standing order in that context is an exact example of how it should be applied to this question. The PRESIDENT: I am suggesting that it has been the practice of the House to enable members to seek further information on matters that are raised from time to time. I do not want to make a big deal out of it, but I am suggesting that if we were to literally interpret this standing order, members could not ask a question about almost anything on the Notice Paper for fear of anticipation, or on the basis that someone had said something at some time during the session. Question time would be quite unworkable. I do not know what the answer is, let alone what the import of the question is, but I invite the Leader of the House to answer the question. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon N.F. MOORE replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
The PRESIDENT: I am suggesting that it has been the practice of the House to enable members to seek further information on matters that are raised from time to time. I do not want to make a big deal out of it, but I am suggesting that if we were to literally interpret this standing order, members could not ask a question about almost anything on the Notice Paper for fear of anticipation, or on the basis that someone had said something at some time during the session. Question time would be quite unworkable. I do not know what the answer is, let alone what the import of the question is, but I invite the Leader of the House to answer the question. Questions without Notice Resumed Hon N.F. MOORE replied: I thank the member for some notice of this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
I thank the member for some notice of this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich: I bet you do. Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
Hon N.F. MOORE: Does the member not want to know whether Western Power is doing some work in Carnarvon? That is also over the range. Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
Western Power regularly reviews its generation and network assets in Carnarvon for compliance with regulations, capacity to meet forecast electricity demand and achievement of customer charter performance targets. The following upgrade and expansion projects have recently been completed or are currently in progress: Three new two-megawatt gas engines were commissioned in November 1999 as stage one of the power station capacity expansion project at a cost of approximately $7m. The generators are temporarily out of service for tests and modifications to address performance problems, but are now performing to specification and will be returned to service by the end of September 2000. The timing of the next stage of the expansion project will depend on Carnarvon’s electricity demand growth, but is likely to be needed by 2003-04. The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
The Carnarvon electricity distribution network has been progressively upgraded over the past two years at a cost of more than $400 000. This work has included the replacement of more than 150 poles and, most recently, the reconstruction of the Babbage Island high voltage circuit. Throttle control equipment on three dual fuel generators at Carnarvon power station will be replaced and upgraded to improve unit performance and stability by October 2000, at a cost of approximately $85 000. A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.
A study is presently under way into the distribution network and power station switchboard configuration to improve electricity supply reliability and security. Tenders are able to be called for testing and condition assessment of all wood power poles in the Carnarvon area. Statement by President, Framing of Questions The PRESIDENT: Before I ask for the next question, I indicate that the Leader of the Opposition actually has a point. Members might like to frame their questions having regard to the way in which the standing orders read, because it would have been possible to ask the question without necessarily referring to something that had been said in the House in the past few days. I do not want to enforce a standing order so that we destroy question time, but I advise members that there are plenty of ways in which to frame a question. It is a bit late now for the Leader of the Opposition because I considered that during the time the answer was given.

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