❓ Mr. L'Estrange questions the Minister for Corrective Services about drug control in prisons, specifically regarding a recent drug find at Bunbury Regional Prison. The Minister defends the government's actions and criticises the previous government's lack of a drug strategy.
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PRISONS —
CONTRABAND
1024. Mr S.K. L'ESTRANGE to the Minister for
Corrective Services:
In an interview on ABC breakfast
radio on 7 November, the Minister for Corrective Services is reported as having
called finding the drugs in Bunbury Regional Prison a ''win''.
(1) Does the
minister consider finding the drugs more important than preventing them from
being there in the first place?
(2) What is he doing to stop the
flow of drugs into his prisons?
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Members, I am
sure the minister can answer the question.
CONTRABAND
1024. Mr S.K. L'ESTRANGE to the Minister for
Corrective Services:
In an interview on ABC breakfast
radio on 7 November, the Minister for Corrective Services is reported as having
called finding the drugs in Bunbury Regional Prison a ''win''.
(1) Does the
minister consider finding the drugs more important than preventing them from
being there in the first place?
(2) What is he doing to stop the
flow of drugs into his prisons?
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Members, I am
sure the minister can answer the question.
AnswerView source ↗
I thank the member for —
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Members!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is right.
I thank the member for that question.
(1)–(2) As
the member knows, I have already answered all of that issue around the Bunbury
Regional Prison raid. In fact, I quoted the member himself; he virtually said
the same thing that he just said in this house today.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
Right, so answer it.
The SPEAKER : No, excuse me.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I answered it.
I answered it by setting out all the things that we have put in place.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange interjected.
The SPEAKER : Member for
Churchlands, I call you to order for the first time. You cannot ask it and
answer it.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I answered it,
Mr Speaker, by reminding the member of all the things we have put in place to
intervene and to intercept drugs in prisons, including the intelligence that
led to finding out about where the drugs were in the first place, which is the
point that the member is going to, none of which he had in place. He did not
have this in place. The former government had walked away from it. There was no
drug strategy in place. It abandoned the space. Of course, prisons were awash
with drugs and we are now fixing it up. The member has the hide to come in here
and say, ''Why don't you do some initial work before you
actually do the raids?'' This is ridiculous! Just tell me, member for
Churchlands: what is your policy on drugs in prisons?
Mr S.K. L'Estrange : I
beg your pardon?
Mr F.M. LOGAN : What is your
policy on drugs in prisons?
The SPEAKER : Minister,
through the Chair.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
My policy on that?
Mr F.M. LOGAN : Yes.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
Well, my question —
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : So there is no
policy!
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : It was a very simple question.
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Through the —
Mr S.K. L'Estrange interjected.
The SPEAKER : You will go home
if you keep talking like that!
Minister, you will talk through the Chair.
You will not ask the opposition questions.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : Mr Speaker, I put
a simple proposition to the member for Churchlands, which goes to the very
point of the question: what is the opposition's policy on drugs in
prisons? This is the third opposition corrections shadow minister. I have asked
him to just give me one idea of his own policy on drugs and he could not do it.
The SPEAKER : No.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : He could not
do it. Three shadow ministers —
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
The Speaker won't let me answer!
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Member for
Churchlands, you cannot interject. Even if he asks, you cannot. That is the
rule of Parliament. Has that got through? Okay. Thank you. Minister, through
the Chair.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will; thank
you, Mr Speaker.
Ms S. Winton : A thought
bubble.
The SPEAKER : Yes, member for
Wanneroo; I got your thought bubble. I call you to order for the first time.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : There were
three shadow corrections ministers in nearly three years and not one policy—never
mind on drugs, not on anything. There was not one policy. No wonder the member
for Churchlands' nickname is ''Pluto''. He is so far out
there in the Liberal solar system, no wonder his nickname is ''Pluto''.
Withdrawal of Remark
The SPEAKER : Member, you will
withdraw that and call him by the correct name.
Mr F.M.
LOGAN : I withdraw.
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Members!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : That is right.
I thank the member for that question.
(1)–(2) As
the member knows, I have already answered all of that issue around the Bunbury
Regional Prison raid. In fact, I quoted the member himself; he virtually said
the same thing that he just said in this house today.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
Right, so answer it.
The SPEAKER : No, excuse me.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I answered it.
I answered it by setting out all the things that we have put in place.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange interjected.
The SPEAKER : Member for
Churchlands, I call you to order for the first time. You cannot ask it and
answer it.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I answered it,
Mr Speaker, by reminding the member of all the things we have put in place to
intervene and to intercept drugs in prisons, including the intelligence that
led to finding out about where the drugs were in the first place, which is the
point that the member is going to, none of which he had in place. He did not
have this in place. The former government had walked away from it. There was no
drug strategy in place. It abandoned the space. Of course, prisons were awash
with drugs and we are now fixing it up. The member has the hide to come in here
and say, ''Why don't you do some initial work before you
actually do the raids?'' This is ridiculous! Just tell me, member for
Churchlands: what is your policy on drugs in prisons?
Mr S.K. L'Estrange : I
beg your pardon?
Mr F.M. LOGAN : What is your
policy on drugs in prisons?
The SPEAKER : Minister,
through the Chair.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
My policy on that?
Mr F.M. LOGAN : Yes.
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
Well, my question —
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : So there is no
policy!
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Mr F.M. LOGAN : It was a very simple question.
The SPEAKER : Minister!
Through the —
Mr S.K. L'Estrange interjected.
The SPEAKER : You will go home
if you keep talking like that!
Minister, you will talk through the Chair.
You will not ask the opposition questions.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : Mr Speaker, I put
a simple proposition to the member for Churchlands, which goes to the very
point of the question: what is the opposition's policy on drugs in
prisons? This is the third opposition corrections shadow minister. I have asked
him to just give me one idea of his own policy on drugs and he could not do it.
The SPEAKER : No.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : He could not
do it. Three shadow ministers —
Mr S.K. L'Estrange :
The Speaker won't let me answer!
Several members interjected.
The SPEAKER : Member for
Churchlands, you cannot interject. Even if he asks, you cannot. That is the
rule of Parliament. Has that got through? Okay. Thank you. Minister, through
the Chair.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : I will; thank
you, Mr Speaker.
Ms S. Winton : A thought
bubble.
The SPEAKER : Yes, member for
Wanneroo; I got your thought bubble. I call you to order for the first time.
Mr F.M. LOGAN : There were
three shadow corrections ministers in nearly three years and not one policy—never
mind on drugs, not on anything. There was not one policy. No wonder the member
for Churchlands' nickname is ''Pluto''. He is so far out
there in the Liberal solar system, no wonder his nickname is ''Pluto''.
Withdrawal of Remark
The SPEAKER : Member, you will
withdraw that and call him by the correct name.
Mr F.M.
LOGAN : I withdraw.
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