❓ Mr Logan questions the Minister for Housing's continued provision of information to Macro Realty despite an ASIC investigation. Minister Grylls defends his actions, citing the need to address the Pilbara property crisis and attract investment, while acknowledging misuse of his image.
AnsweredQoN 603Legislative Assembly
QuestionView source ↗
HOUSING — PILBARA
— MACRO REALTY DEVELOPMENTS — MINISTER FOR HOUSING
603. Mr F.M. LOGAN to the Minister for Housing:
The minister overlooked question
(3), but w e will come back to
that. I have a supplementary question to the first part of the question. Why did
the minister continue to provide information to Ms Macpherson that was then
actively used to promote Macro Realty's business activities despite the
current Australian Securities and Investments Commission investigation? She
obviously has the minister's mobile number.
— MACRO REALTY DEVELOPMENTS — MINISTER FOR HOUSING
603. Mr F.M. LOGAN to the Minister for Housing:
The minister overlooked question
(3), but w e will come back to
that. I have a supplementary question to the first part of the question. Why did
the minister continue to provide information to Ms Macpherson that was then
actively used to promote Macro Realty's business activities despite the
current Australian Securities and Investments Commission investigation? She
obviously has the minister's mobile number.
AnswerView source ↗
She does have my mobile number. As a
developer of a major estate in Newman, that was an important part of solving
the property crisis in the Pilbara.
Mr
M. McGowan : You're supporting it.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : I am not supporting it. Right until recently, that was the project
that she was bringing investment to us essentially from international clients
into Western Australia to look at —
Mr
F.M. Logan : What was your role?
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : At times—I think three or four times; two or three—I
met with their tour groups in Karratha to talk about that scheme, and I explained
—
Ms
M.M. Quirk interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen!
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : I am disappointed that my position as the member for Pilbara
was used in that way on those websites, but I do not resile from the fact that
investment in the property sector in the Pilbara was an absolute fundamental of
the formation of the Liberal–National government. Those $3 000-a-week
rents were an absolute disgrace imposed on the people of the Pilbara through no
planning and no work at all done to address that issue. Off the back of the
property —
Several members interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the first time.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : Off the back of the property downturn, there has been enormous
pain in the Pilbara property market. The vast majority of that pain has been
borne by bank re-evaluations of assets that have taken people with a $600 000
mortgage back to being out of money by a couple of hundred thousand, and the
bank comes back for the money. From mum-and-dad investors to small business
owners, right through the property spectrum, that is the major challenge of the
Pilbara. I take the opportunity from the question to ask all members not to
think that the Pilbara property crisis is over, because individuals are being
required to come up with a 30 per cent deposit for a house, bank revaluations
of existing businesses' properties are putting them —
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I call you to order for the first time.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : Bank revaluations of that asset portfolio in the Pilbara are
creating major struggles right across the Pilbara, and I ask the banks to be
very wary of what they are doing in those revaluations. The Pilbara is trying
to come out of that property boom cycle that is damaging to everyone. I thought
in the two-minute conversation with the principal of Macro Realty Developments
that we were discussing the removal of my image from the website. That
conversation led to more of my position being put forward. But, member for
Cockburn, all I did was say that the Pilbara Regional Council was working on
migration, which it has been doing for a number of years, and I think that that
conversation was then pursued with it.
developer of a major estate in Newman, that was an important part of solving
the property crisis in the Pilbara.
Mr
M. McGowan : You're supporting it.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : I am not supporting it. Right until recently, that was the project
that she was bringing investment to us essentially from international clients
into Western Australia to look at —
Mr
F.M. Logan : What was your role?
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : At times—I think three or four times; two or three—I
met with their tour groups in Karratha to talk about that scheme, and I explained
—
Ms
M.M. Quirk interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Girrawheen!
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : I am disappointed that my position as the member for Pilbara
was used in that way on those websites, but I do not resile from the fact that
investment in the property sector in the Pilbara was an absolute fundamental of
the formation of the Liberal–National government. Those $3 000-a-week
rents were an absolute disgrace imposed on the people of the Pilbara through no
planning and no work at all done to address that issue. Off the back of the
property —
Several members interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the first time.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : Off the back of the property downturn, there has been enormous
pain in the Pilbara property market. The vast majority of that pain has been
borne by bank re-evaluations of assets that have taken people with a $600 000
mortgage back to being out of money by a couple of hundred thousand, and the
bank comes back for the money. From mum-and-dad investors to small business
owners, right through the property spectrum, that is the major challenge of the
Pilbara. I take the opportunity from the question to ask all members not to
think that the Pilbara property crisis is over, because individuals are being
required to come up with a 30 per cent deposit for a house, bank revaluations
of existing businesses' properties are putting them —
Mr
F.M. Logan interjected.
The
SPEAKER : Member for Cockburn, I call you to order for the first time.
Mr
B.J. GRYLLS : Bank revaluations of that asset portfolio in the Pilbara are
creating major struggles right across the Pilbara, and I ask the banks to be
very wary of what they are doing in those revaluations. The Pilbara is trying
to come out of that property boom cycle that is damaging to everyone. I thought
in the two-minute conversation with the principal of Macro Realty Developments
that we were discussing the removal of my image from the website. That
conversation led to more of my position being put forward. But, member for
Cockburn, all I did was say that the Pilbara Regional Council was working on
migration, which it has been doing for a number of years, and I think that that
conversation was then pursued with it.
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