❓ Question on Notice regarding the proposed deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. The Minister acknowledges the Hearings Committee's findings but defends the WA Planning Commission's decision to support the deletion, citing a more comprehensive approach.
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I refer the minister to her media statement dated 19 November regarding the proposed deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass, which states - The Planning Commission considered all submissions and made its decision on the merits of the argument. (1) Is the minister aware that the Western Australian Planning Commission Hearings Committee, which is made up of town planners, engineers, planning commission members and economic experts, found that the Fremantle eastern bypass “addresses existing and future issues associated with freight movement better than the proposed alternatives”? (2) Is the minister also aware that the Hearings Committee found that “the FEB-Roe Highway route offers a better overall transport network than the ‘preferred alternative’”? (3) Is the minister further aware that the Hearings Committee’s report on this issue states, “The Committee does not support deletion of the Fremantle Eastern Bypass”? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(2) Is the minister also aware that the Hearings Committee found that “the FEB-Roe Highway route offers a better overall transport network than the ‘preferred alternative’”? (3) Is the minister further aware that the Hearings Committee’s report on this issue states, “The Committee does not support deletion of the Fremantle Eastern Bypass”? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(3) Is the minister further aware that the Hearings Committee’s report on this issue states, “The Committee does not support deletion of the Fremantle Eastern Bypass”? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(2) Is the minister also aware that the Hearings Committee found that “the FEB-Roe Highway route offers a better overall transport network than the ‘preferred alternative’”? (3) Is the minister further aware that the Hearings Committee’s report on this issue states, “The Committee does not support deletion of the Fremantle Eastern Bypass”? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(3) Is the minister further aware that the Hearings Committee’s report on this issue states, “The Committee does not support deletion of the Fremantle Eastern Bypass”? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
(1)-(3) Yes, it is all in this document. The Hearings Committee listened to the representations made by the public. Many emotive submissions were made but, at the end of the day, as the member will see if she reads the report - Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms K. Hodson-Thomas: Don’t always think that you are better than everyone else in this place, minister. I have read it. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is quite obvious that I would have known that the Hearings Committee had resolved this. The document that I tabled in this House contains all that information. No doubt the member for Carine found the information in the document I tabled. It is true that the Hearings Committee made that recommendation. It is also true that the Western Australian Planning Commission considered in detail the arguments put forward by the Hearings Committee. The commission took it upon itself to get detailed briefings from the agencies on what was happening with the six-point plan. The document makes it very clear that the commission looked at the arguments and the progress of the six-point plan and made its decision on that basis. As the commission says, it is a difficult and complex matter. We do not deny that. The commission also made the point very clearly that the retention of the Fremantle eastern bypass reservation does not provide a catalyst for change but retains the status quo of uncertainty. I could go on. The member can concentrate, as she is entitled to, on the report of the Hearings Committee or she can read the report of the WA Planning Commission. Quite frankly, at the end of the day, the commission put forward the more cogent arguments. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
The SPEAKER: I call to order the members for Peel and Carine. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The WA Planning Commission also considered the submissions of the department. It made an assessment. At the end of the day it resolved to support the deletion of the Fremantle eastern bypass. It resolved to get a twenty-first century planning solution to our transport problems and to not continue to live in the past.
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