Mr. Barron-Sullivan questions the Minister for Education regarding the decision to exclude years 11 and 12 from Eaton Community College, citing community opposition. The Minister defends the decision, referencing support from the school council and P&C.

AnsweredQoN 584Legislative Assembly
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22 September 2004
Portfolio
Education and Training

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I refer to the Government’s decision to break a very important election promise by excluding years 11 - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: Members opposite will have to listen, because I cannot go much louder than this. I refer to the Government’s decision to break a very important election promise by excluding years 11 and 12 from the Eaton Community College and to the minister’s explanation to this House on 17 August that his decision was “strongly supported by the broad community”. (1) Does the minister concede that when 95 per cent of local residents who replied to a survey by the Shire of Dardanup supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER

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(1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: Members opposite will have to listen, because I cannot go much louder than this. I refer to the Government’s decision to break a very important election promise by excluding years 11 and 12 from the Eaton Community College and to the minister’s explanation to this House on 17 August that his decision was “strongly supported by the broad community”. (1) Does the minister concede that when 95 per cent of local residents who replied to a survey by the Shire of Dardanup supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
The SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: Members opposite will have to listen, because I cannot go much louder than this. I refer to the Government’s decision to break a very important election promise by excluding years 11 and 12 from the Eaton Community College and to the minister’s explanation to this House on 17 August that his decision was “strongly supported by the broad community”. (1) Does the minister concede that when 95 per cent of local residents who replied to a survey by the Shire of Dardanup supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr D.F. BARRON-SULLIVAN: Members opposite will have to listen, because I cannot go much louder than this. I refer to the Government’s decision to break a very important election promise by excluding years 11 and 12 from the Eaton Community College and to the minister’s explanation to this House on 17 August that his decision was “strongly supported by the broad community”. (1) Does the minister concede that when 95 per cent of local residents who replied to a survey by the Shire of Dardanup supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
(1) Does the minister concede that when 95 per cent of local residents who replied to a survey by the Shire of Dardanup supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
(2) Does the minister concede that when the local shire council passed a motion supporting the inclusion of years 11 and 12 at Eaton Community College, that demonstrates he was wrong? (3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
(3) Does the minister concede that when 94 per cent of local parents who replied to a survey that I distributed supported the inclusion of years 11 and 12, that demonstrates he was wrong? (4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
(4) Does the minister concede that when 212 children and their supporters at Eaton Community College signed a petition supporting the inclusion at their school of years 11 and 12, that too demonstrates he was wrong? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
(1)-(4) In short, the answer to all four of those questions is exactly the same: no. I will perhaps give a slightly longer answer. It would be interesting if that member on the other side, whose level of credibility we all understand and whose level of credibility is fully understood even in his own electorate - it is very interesting to hear what people say about him - would produce the survey, which essentially asked people to respond in the positive and send it back. Is that not right: “If you agree with the survey, please send it back”? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I will not delay the House. This is absolutely pathetic. I went to the school and spoke to the school council, the parents and citizens association and the staff. They were strongly and, as I recall, unanimously of the view - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You are wrong about the way in which the survey was worded. Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER: I did not survey people who are not even involved with the school; I went to the school and spoke to the school council and the P&C. They are strongly of the view that they want the Eaton Community College to retain its middle school status and for a years 11 and 12 senior college to be developed on site with the Bunbury South West Regional College of TAFE and the Edith Cowan University. That is their view. This is a lamentable, transparent political exercise conducted by the member for Mitchell. It hardly bears responding to.

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