❓ Mr. Johnson questions the Minister about the CAP Speed project's cost overruns and potential outsourcing. The Minister acknowledges delays but deflects blame, citing previous government IT project failures and the need to upgrade obsolete equipment.
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CAP SPEED PROJECT
The CAP Speed, or coordinated action project, was supposed to be in operation by mid-2004, at a cost of $7 million. However, because of gross mismanagement, the project is now expected to be at least $4.5 million over budget and four years late. (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE
The CAP Speed, or coordinated action project, was supposed to be in operation by mid-2004, at a cost of $7 million. However, because of gross mismanagement, the project is now expected to be at least $4.5 million over budget and four years late. (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE
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(1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mrs M.H. Roberts interjected. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Sorry. The member for Midland is not the Minister for Police anymore; the member for Balcatta is. The member for Midland is the one who messed it up and made the false promises! Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mrs M.H. Roberts : I am sorry if I have embarrassed you! I apologise! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : The minister certainly has not embarrassed me! The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order! Members on my right, I know that occasionally members want to have their say. When it is appropriate, they can have their say; when it is completely inappropriate, they should not. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I will start the question again. Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.N. Hyde interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Perth! Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : Does the member for Perth have a jacket on today, or is it that scruffy old cardigan? The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order! Members, herein lies the problem with interjections that prolong a question time that has already gone for half an hour. I call the member for Perth to order for the first time. Member for Hillarys, ask your question. Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. JOHNSON : I will indeed, Mr Speaker. I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
I ask - (1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1) Will the minister confirm that, despite this massive investment, police are now looking at outsourcing to private companies the infringements management process and associated activities, such as speed camera operators and fines processing? (2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(2) Will the minister confirm that at least one police inspector has been sent on a fact-finding mission to the eastern states to facilitate the outsourcing or privatisation of this arm of the WA Police? Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: (1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
(1)-(2) I thank the member for his question and welcome him back to the chamber. I hope he had a good time back home in the United Kingdom! It is good to see his smiling face back here in the Assembly! Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr R.F. Johnson : My home is here, and I am always glad to come back! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : In addressing the issue of the implementation of new programs and new IT equipment for speeding fines enforcement, we are seeking to put in place a much better system. However, there have been delays, because part of the upgrade now allows photographs to be placed on the notice that is issued, and that has caused a backlog. We are now trying to catch up on that backlog, so there are issues there. I cannot confirm the actual costing of the CAP Speed project. Clearly, I acknowledge that there have been problems. However, the problems have been nowhere near what we inherited from the coalition government with the Delta Communications and Information Technology and computer aided dispatch and communications services projects. DCAT and CADCOM cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the previous government had not budgeted for. It signed off on something without doing a proper analysis of the full cost. It started those systems, knowing that it had not fully funded them, and the cost grew like Topsy. Therefore, in the end, it was an unmitigated mess that this government had to clean up. I thank the Treasurer and the former Minister for Police and Emergency Services for the job they did in cleaning up the total mess that we inherited from the last government with information technology systems for our police. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : The police are doing a great deal of work on how we can roll into a digital system. The current speed cameras are wet-film cameras. They are now largely obsolete, and it is very difficult to buy parts to maintain and replace them. One of the processing units failed, and a new processing unit could not be purchased. The police looked around the world, and they could not even buy second-hand ones. Therefore, our current camera build is obsolete and needs to be replaced. We have officers who have travelled internationally over the past year or so to look at a range of different products that are available in the marketplace. They have gone to tender, and I expect that in the very near future the police will advise me of who will be the successful tenderer for the provision of new cameras, moving to a digital build. As a part of that build, the whole process is being reassessed. Clearly, there may be a role for parts of that to be done by private sector companies. However, the police are looking at it in terms of the whole build. I am talking to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. It may be that part of that build would be better done by Main Roads, which actually puts in place its own cameras and builds the infrastructure. Really, we are trying to make sure that when we commit to the new digital camera build, we will have a total system in place, unlike the last Liberal government when it committed to CADCOM and DCAT, which turned out to be systems that were going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars that the last government had not budgeted for, and this government had to bail it out. We are going to make sure that all the options are looked at, so that we deliver a better system for fines enforcement and speed cameras.
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