❓ Question regarding claims of a $300 million budget blowout for the Perth to Mandurah railway project. The Minister refutes the claims, accusing the opposition of hypocrisy and misrepresenting the project's costs and scope.
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I refer to the claims by the Leader of the Opposition that the budget for the Perth to Mandurah railway has blown out by $300 million. Can the minister advise the House of the truth or otherwise of these claims? Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN
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I thank the member for Mandurah for the question. The member quite rightly is concerned about the rail to Mandurah. He had seen the perfidy of members on the other side, who went into the last election promising to build a railway line to Mandurah but now are racing around the length and breadth of the State claiming that the building of the railway to Mandurah is compromising the finances of the State, thereby implying what we all know to be the case; namely, that although members opposite made a commitment at the last election to build that rail they had no intention of building that rail. Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: I thank the member for Mandurah for the question. The member quite rightly is concerned about the rail to Mandurah. He had seen the perfidy of members on the other side, who went into the last election promising to build a railway line to Mandurah but now are racing around the length and breadth of the State claiming that the building of the railway to Mandurah is compromising the finances of the State, thereby implying what we all know to be the case; namely, that although members opposite made a commitment at the last election to build that rail they had no intention of building that rail. Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
I thank the member for Mandurah for the question. The member quite rightly is concerned about the rail to Mandurah. He had seen the perfidy of members on the other side, who went into the last election promising to build a railway line to Mandurah but now are racing around the length and breadth of the State claiming that the building of the railway to Mandurah is compromising the finances of the State, thereby implying what we all know to be the case; namely, that although members opposite made a commitment at the last election to build that rail they had no intention of building that rail. Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN replied: I thank the member for Mandurah for the question. The member quite rightly is concerned about the rail to Mandurah. He had seen the perfidy of members on the other side, who went into the last election promising to build a railway line to Mandurah but now are racing around the length and breadth of the State claiming that the building of the railway to Mandurah is compromising the finances of the State, thereby implying what we all know to be the case; namely, that although members opposite made a commitment at the last election to build that rail they had no intention of building that rail. Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
I thank the member for Mandurah for the question. The member quite rightly is concerned about the rail to Mandurah. He had seen the perfidy of members on the other side, who went into the last election promising to build a railway line to Mandurah but now are racing around the length and breadth of the State claiming that the building of the railway to Mandurah is compromising the finances of the State, thereby implying what we all know to be the case; namely, that although members opposite made a commitment at the last election to build that rail they had no intention of building that rail. Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: The Leader of the National Party - welcome back - has also been peddling this hoary chestnut of the $300 million. I thought perhaps he just does not understand finances - he is from the National Party. The Leader of the Opposition has been doing this over the past week, but I was very disappointed that my good friend the member for Carine is likewise being led into the valley of budget darkness and is believing this nonsense. This is a very important point, and I will continue to attempt to educate members opposite on the funding of the railway. Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr M.W. Trenorden: Please do. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Absolutely. I am sure the Leader of the Opposition will keep silent while I set out the facts. The facts are that the rail project as promised by the National Party Minister for Transport - a point conveniently forgotten in all of its press releases, which now say that the National Party opposes the rail - was a $1.17 billion project. Added to that of course was the $70 million for stage 2 of the Kwinana Freeway bus lane. The National Party forgets that in its press releases. It forgets to add that as well as building the Kenwick deviation it had committed $70 million to extending the busway, because it recognised that it had to provide some form of transport to Rockingham and Kwinana. If we add those two, we get $1.217 billion. Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett: No, you don’t. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: Of course we must add them. That was the previous Government’s infrastructure project. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: A public transport system is a public transport system. Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Leader of the Opposition! Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr M.W. Trenorden interjected. The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Leader of the National Party! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: I was pleased to hear in a debate this week the member for Carine acknowledge that it was probably quite right that there needed to be an escalation figure of $168 million on the project, because, as we know, the original figures were 1998-99 figures. Even the Liberal Party could not build a railway in 2005 based on 1998 figures, so there was a concession. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: Members! Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: It is not as though the member for Carine has been going out on a limb. She is picking up statements that have been made in this House by the Leader of the Opposition that we needed to escalate it and probably at the rate of three per cent a year. In fact, we have escalated it less than that. There is an agreement that there needs to be an escalation. What is left is a difference of $33 million. That is the cost of the extension of this project - $15.5 million for the additional cost for the tunnelling and an $18 million deferral because we are budgeting it out to 2007. What members opposite do not acknowledge is the vastly increased operational costs that we would have had under their project. We are cutting the number of rail cars and the number of trips that will be required because we have a far more efficient, cost-effective and time-effective system. Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Mr C.J. Barnett: Why don’t you table some costings for the whole project? Give us full costings, stage by stage, date by date and let us look at it as a Parliament. Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
Ms A.J. MacTIERNAN: We have done that. We have provided costings for every item of this project. Members opposite will not get away with this. They promised to build this railway, but they had no intention of building it. Now they are trying to undermine this visionary project that we are delivering for the people of Western Australia. The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
The SPEAKER: I call to order the member for Dawesville, the Leader of the Opposition and the member for Vasse.
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