❓ Question regarding the use of Perth parking funds for light rail to alleviate Red CAT bus overcrowding. The Minister defends current use of funds for CAT buses and criticises the opposition's light rail plan.
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red cat bus service — overcrowding
Why will the minister not use any of the millions of dollars accumulating in the Perth parking fund to build a light rail across the Perth CBD and actually fix the problem? Mr T.R. BUSWELL
Why will the minister not use any of the millions of dollars accumulating in the Perth parking fund to build a light rail across the Perth CBD and actually fix the problem? Mr T.R. BUSWELL
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We are using some of the millions of dollars in the Perth parking levy to pay for the extra CAT bus services that the member just accused us of not having. I want to make a couple of points in relation to light rail, because — Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: We are using some of the millions of dollars in the Perth parking levy to pay for the extra CAT bus services that the member just accused us of not having. I want to make a couple of points in relation to light rail, because — Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
We are using some of the millions of dollars in the Perth parking levy to pay for the extra CAT bus services that the member just accused us of not having. I want to make a couple of points in relation to light rail, because — Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL replied: We are using some of the millions of dollars in the Perth parking levy to pay for the extra CAT bus services that the member just accused us of not having. I want to make a couple of points in relation to light rail, because — Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
We are using some of the millions of dollars in the Perth parking levy to pay for the extra CAT bus services that the member just accused us of not having. I want to make a couple of points in relation to light rail, because — Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : You raised the levy; you’re hoarding the funds to massage state debt. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Most definitely not, Leader of the Opposition. The Leader of the Opposition’s fixation with state debt does not need to be confused with public transport. Let us be absolutely clear in the first instance. Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : When it triples in three years, of course I’m worried about it. The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : A lot of the money that is raised through that parking levy is paying for the extra CAT bus services. In relation to light rail, I happened to notice the opposition’s plan for light rail. It will be the cheapest light rail ever built in history. It will go from Gloucester Park to Princess Margaret Hospital. How will people use that? Who will use it? Is the plan for them to park at Gloucester Park? Will there be a parking station at the either end? Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Several members interjected. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : I do not know. Members opposite want a light rail that connects a place where nobody lives to a place where nobody else lives. Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Yesterday, in the upper house, Hon Ken Travers said that if we are to have light rail, we cannot have car parks near it, and we cannot have bus interchanges. Is that the Leader of the Opposition’s view? Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : He has got under your skin! Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : Is it the view of members opposite that if people want light rail, they have to be able to walk to the train? Is that your view, Leader of the Opposition? Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr E.S. Ripper : I would not trust your account of Hon Ken Travers’ remarks whatsoever. Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
Mr T.R. BUSWELL : You cannot knock a house down to build it, and you have to walk to the train! I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
I want to close with something I happened to dig out; I might even lay it on the table. This document is a study into light rail in Strasbourg, France. I had the good fortune to go there recently. Strasbourg is France’s sixth or seventh biggest city and it has the largest light rail network; it is one of the world’s leading light rail networks. Do members opposite know what happens in Strasbourg? This study reads — On some points along the tram routes, the design of the street and the platform lets buses pull up … It lets people get on and off the trams on the light rail, which is exactly what Ken Travers does not want to have happen. The document continues by stating that they “deem park and ride facilities absolutely necessary”. Members opposite want to build a light rail system that, firstly, is the cheapest light rail system since the dawn of time, and, secondly, they want people to have to walk because there will be no parking and no chance to get off buses. Members opposite are internationally unique!
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