❓ Opposition questions the Minister about a prohibition notice on rubber-lined hoses in LPG vehicle installations, focusing on consultation, cost assessment, and overall policy cost. The Minister defends the decision based on safety and cites industry consultation and cost analysis.
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VEHICLE LPG INSTALLATIONS — RUBBER-LINED HOSE PROHIBITION NOTICE
I refer to the undated prohibition notice “Rubber-lined Hoses in Vehicle LPG Installations”. (1) Did the minister permit the issuing of the notice without consulting relevant members of the automotive industry; and, if so, why? (2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD
I refer to the undated prohibition notice “Rubber-lined Hoses in Vehicle LPG Installations”. (1) Did the minister permit the issuing of the notice without consulting relevant members of the automotive industry; and, if so, why? (2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD
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I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(1) Did the minister permit the issuing of the notice without consulting relevant members of the automotive industry; and, if so, why? (2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(1) Did the minister permit the issuing of the notice without consulting relevant members of the automotive industry; and, if so, why? (2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(2) Did the minister assess either the practicality for or the cost to affected consumers before going ahead with this measure; and, if not, why not? (3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(3) What will be the cost to private consumers and industry of this policy, and how was this calculated? Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon JON FORD replied: I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
I thank Hon Simon O’Brien for some notice of the question. (1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
(1)-(3) EnergySafety initially commenced its investigations after receiving allegations from industry that fuel contamination was causing autogas vehicle problems. EnergySafety is Western Australia’s gas safety regulator and is responsible for administering regulations under the Gas Standards Act 1972 that prescribe the technical standards for liquefied petroleum gas installations in vehicles. From the detailed chemical analysis of failed converter components from vehicles, EnergySafety, with the assistance of senior chemist David Tranthim-Fryer from the Chemistry Centre (WA), established that the failures could not have been caused by fuel contamination. Instead, it was found that the flexible hoses commonly used in petrol-to-autogas conversions release plasticisers when conveying LPG that are harmful to converter components, causing the problems being reported. Further analysis of the hose plasticiser compounds left on failed converter components allowed EnergySafety to identify which brand of hose was involved. Hon Simon O’Brien : That’s got nothing to do with the question. Are you going to answer the question? The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The PRESIDENT : Order, Deputy Leader of the Opposition! The minister is seeking to answer the question. Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon Simon O’Brien : His preamble is excessively long. Get to the point. Did you consult industry or not? Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! I appreciate that this is the sixth week of sitting out of eight weeks, and we are sitting longer than another place. Notwithstanding that, if a member asks a minister a question, it would be reasonable to listen to the answer. The member can make a statement in members’ statements if he wants to. The minister. Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Hon JON FORD : Thank you, Mr President. My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
My primary concern, as the minister responsible for EnergySafety, is that components are safe to use and that their use does not adversely affect the safe performance of vehicles. Plasticiser damage to the converter can cause a range of performance problems in vehicles, from stalling and backfiring through to the air filter exploding, causing damage in particular car models. Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
Extensive consultation was carried out with automotive industry associations and autogas installers prior to the issuing of the prohibition order. EnergySafety assessed both the practicality and the cost to consumers before going ahead with the measure. Discussions with autogas installers indicated that provided small amounts of flexible hose could be used on selected vehicles, particularly for the fill line section—fill point to LP gas container—no issues of practicality would result. The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
The extra cost for the private consumer is estimated at up to $100 at the time of conversion. This is based on the additional material costs in using metallic pipe and compliant hose for the fuel lines. It is expected the cost will reduce as additional brands of compliant flexible hose enter the market. The cost of rectifying installations that suffer plasticiser problems are considerable for consumers and the industry. The cost of replacing a damaged converter is typically $400. That is consistent with the cost of $300 for the converter and $100 for the hose.
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