❓ Mr. Snook questions the Premier's commitment to the daylight saving trial given the Upper House's actions. The Premier defends the trial and criticizes the Liberal Party's tactics in the Upper House.
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DAYLIGHT SAVING TRIAL
I refer to the Premier’s unyielding support for continuing his daylight saving trial for its full three-year term. (1) Is the Premier’s position reflective of the view of the upper house members who today facilitated the passage of an opposition bill to effectively end the trial and bring the referendum forward? (2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
I refer to the Premier’s unyielding support for continuing his daylight saving trial for its full three-year term. (1) Is the Premier’s position reflective of the view of the upper house members who today facilitated the passage of an opposition bill to effectively end the trial and bring the referendum forward? (2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER
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(1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(1) Is the Premier’s position reflective of the view of the upper house members who today facilitated the passage of an opposition bill to effectively end the trial and bring the referendum forward? (2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(1) Is the Premier’s position reflective of the view of the upper house members who today facilitated the passage of an opposition bill to effectively end the trial and bring the referendum forward? (2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(2) Why did the government’s upper house members allow the bill to pass the second reading without once voice of dissent? (3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(3) Has the position of this government changed? Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER replied: (1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
(1)-(3) I find it difficult to believe that I have been asked this question. Really, I am five metres out from goals and I have the ball and the goal umpire is already waving the flags—please! Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Several members interjected. Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : Tell us what happened. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I will increase the degree of difficulty. I will turn my back to the goal and kick the ball over my head and see whether I can still score the six points. I could even back heel it. Who did that? I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
I saw today in the upper house by Hon Norman Moore, on behalf of the Liberal Party, the most ridiculous tactical blunder that I have watched in the process of the upper house. What a charade. There has been a huge argument in the upper house. The government wants to get more legislation through. True to form the Liberal Party in the upper house is trying to block the passage of legislation by slowing everything down. The quid pro quo was to give the opposition more time for its business and it would accommodate the government. So we did. What did it do? It handed it back to us. It debated a piece of legislation that will not go anywhere. Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : What do you mean by “handed it back”? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The Liberal Party handed it back. Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : How? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : It has given the government in the upper house some of its time. Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr T. Buswell : How much? Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Probably about 45 minutes. That is right, familiarise yourself. This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
This is what happened. The government’s position on daylight saving is well know. The trial will continue on into the third year. Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : And you support it. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : Yes, I support it. I am a bit worried about being held to that, but, yes, I support my own position. What about the member for Avon’s leader. Does he support his own position? Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.W. Trenorden : I don’t know; ask him. He’s not here. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : I guess it depends on what way the wind is blowing. Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Several members interjected. Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr J.N. Hyde : Come on, this is workplace harassment. We want to listen to an answer. You be quiet. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : The government’s position is well known and the trial will proceed into the third year, next year. I have said that come the referendum, I believe we should pull back daylight saving. Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : A little bit of adjustment here and there. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : My personal view is that it would be desirable for the daylight saving period to end mid-March. Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr M.J. Cowper interjected. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : This is like kicking that goal and then the umpire blowing the whistle and giving me another kick. The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
The trial will go ahead as this Parliament determined through a private member’s bill—the former leader of the Liberal Party’s bill. The upper house supported it and then some of them started getting a bit windy because they realised two or three people did not like it. A few voices made them want to change it. Anyway, what we saw in the upper house of this state Parliament today was the Liberal Party wasting its own time and handing that time to us. They had only two matters to talk about and it wasted less than 15 minutes on a bill that is going nowhere anyway. The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
The bills that have been debated today were about stamp duty, the Treasurer’s advance bill and so on. They are worthwhile pieces of legislation, but the Liberal Party wanted to debate changes that will never happen. Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr G. Snook : None of your members voiced an opinion. Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Mr A.J. CARPENTER : What did we say? “Let them do it if that is what they want to do.” We said, “Let it go through in 15 minutes and we will take the spare time, thank you.” What a shemozzle. Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
Kim Chance reminds me of the tactical genius who sits quietly watching what is happening. He is the great Buddha of wisdom sitting in the upper house. He has seen it all before and he knows the different dynamics and he picked up 45 minutes of their time for us. The opposition missed it. It absolutely dropped the ball in the upper house today. It was a complete and utter blunder. If I were the Leader of the Opposition, rather than his naive craziness I would get Norman Moore and ask, “What have you done? You handed the Labor Party 45 minutes of our time. I think we should get rid of you, Norman. I think maybe you have been in this place too long and it’s time to move on. This is the worst tactical mistake you have made.” There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
There we go. The government’s position on daylight saving does not change. All our members in the upper house knew what was happening. They supported our position and continue to support our position and the Liberal Party handed us some of their time. Thank you very much.
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