❓ A parliamentary question regarding the government's commitment to underwriting the Master Builders Association's new mutual fund for home indemnity insurance, specifically addressing a previously stated $10 million cap on liability. The Minister defends the government's position, leading to heated exchanges.
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I refer to the ongoing problems the State’s building industry faces with home indemnity insurance and to the new mutual fund the Master Builders Association is establishing to address the situation. I specifically refer to the minister’s media statement of 26 June 2002, which stated in part - In May this year, a $10million cap was imposed on the liability of insurance companies for home indemnity insurance claims. “This cap will also be offered to any mutual that wants to enter the HII business,” Mr Kobelke said. That is an unqualified promise that was reiterated in this Parliament that same day. Will the minister now confirm that his Government will honour this promise and underwrite the whole of the Master Builders Association’s new mutual fund and not just individual claims to the tune of $10 million? Mr J.C. KOBELKE
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I thank the member for the question because it allows me to put on the record a clear explanation of the situation, rather than the muddying of water we have heard from the deputy Liberal leader. Is he still the deputy? Good. Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
“This cap will also be offered to any mutual that wants to enter the HII business,” Mr Kobelke said.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: I thank the member for the question because it allows me to put on the record a clear explanation of the situation, rather than the muddying of water we have heard from the deputy Liberal leader. Is he still the deputy? Good. Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
I thank the member for the question because it allows me to put on the record a clear explanation of the situation, rather than the muddying of water we have heard from the deputy Liberal leader. Is he still the deputy? Good. Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
“This cap will also be offered to any mutual that wants to enter the HII business,” Mr Kobelke said.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: I thank the member for the question because it allows me to put on the record a clear explanation of the situation, rather than the muddying of water we have heard from the deputy Liberal leader. Is he still the deputy? Good. Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
I thank the member for the question because it allows me to put on the record a clear explanation of the situation, rather than the muddying of water we have heard from the deputy Liberal leader. Is he still the deputy? Good. Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Home indemnity insurance is an ongoing problem. It is much less of a problem than it has been, but I am still concerned that a competitive market does not exist. There is a major player, which is seeking to do the best possible; however, there is still considerable room for improvement in the service delivered to many builders. That player has 80 or 90 per cent of the market. The market is not as competitive a market as I would like. The Government introduced legislation on this matter, and that has been passed. One way of trying to develop competition is to allow the establishment of mutual funds. We have also tried to encourage other players to come into the market, but with very limited success so far. If mutuals could get up and running, there would be another avenue by which people could get home indemnity insurance. That would result in competition, which in turn would encourage a better level of service in that area of insurance. I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
I get to the point of the question. Some time ago a major insurer made it very clear to the other States that it would exit the market if it was not covered for claims by individual builders or individual building groups of over $10 million. As both New South Wales and Victoria signed up to that agreement, we had no other option - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The statement referred to the “liability of insurance companies”. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: The member is misquoting. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: I am not. I have your statement. It states “the liability of insurance companies”. You are wriggling out of the promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: We also had to step in. We offered cover for insurers who provided insurance of over $10 million to a builder or single group of builders. We put that in place. I said, quite rightly and as the member quoted, that the same cap would apply to mutuals. I have said to the people putting the mutual fund together that the same cap will apply. They know that. A single builder or a single group of builders with a liability over $10 million will get the same cover. The member is alluding to aggregation of business. The mutual fund could insure 500 small builders, and the total amount could add up to more than $10 million. It has been made very clear that that sort of cover of reinsurance is not available to private insurance companies or mutuals. It would be very strange if a Labor Government which wants a level playing field for competition and which is trying to encourage competition gave private insurers one set of rules and did not give an industry-based mutual fund a very similar set of rules. The Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party suggests that somehow we should make different rules for people competing in exactly the same market. Does he not believe in a competitive market? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: The builders do not believe anything you say anymore. You have let them down. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: They must have been listening to the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: You have broken your promise. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Has the member started talking to the Leader of the Opposition yet? How is the conversation between the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party and the Leader of the Opposition going? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Talk about the builders and their families who are suffering as a result of your ineptitude. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: Does the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party still have 13 votes? Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan: Builders in the marginal seat of Albany could go broke because of this. Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE: What sort of numbers does the Leader of the Opposition have for the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party’s preselection? That is a factual matter we might be interested to hear about, rather than another attempt by the deputy Liberal leader to say false things and spread misinformation.
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