❓ Mr. Cook questions the Health Minister about Serco's management practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital, referencing concerns raised about their operations at Christmas Island. The Minister's response is dismissive and leads to a heated exchange and a withdrawal of remarks.
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FIONA STANLEY HOSPITAL — SERCO
I refer to recent media reports regarding Serco Australia and, in particular, the revelations that staff were forced into riot situations without training or regard for staff or detainees’ safety and of efforts by Serco to stop current and former members of staff revealing these dangerous management practices in public. (1) Will the minister accept that these same management practices could potentially be imposed on our health system as a result of the minister’s decision to privatise services at Fiona Stanley Hospital? (2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES
I refer to recent media reports regarding Serco Australia and, in particular, the revelations that staff were forced into riot situations without training or regard for staff or detainees’ safety and of efforts by Serco to stop current and former members of staff revealing these dangerous management practices in public. (1) Will the minister accept that these same management practices could potentially be imposed on our health system as a result of the minister’s decision to privatise services at Fiona Stanley Hospital? (2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES
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(1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(1) Will the minister accept that these same management practices could potentially be imposed on our health system as a result of the minister’s decision to privatise services at Fiona Stanley Hospital? (2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(1) Will the minister accept that these same management practices could potentially be imposed on our health system as a result of the minister’s decision to privatise services at Fiona Stanley Hospital? (2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(2) Is it true that Serco will use the same staffing contract and practices at Fiona Stanley Hospital as those being used at Christmas Island? (3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(3) Will the minister investigate these claims about Serco’s management competence at Christmas Island and report on its implications — Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr P.B. Watson interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Member for Albany, I formally call you to order for the second and third times today. Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. COOK : — for the hospital services contract at Fiona Stanley Hospital? Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES replied: (1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
(1)–(3) It is no wonder that no-one takes members opposite seriously when they come up with questions such as that one. The contract that Serco Australia has is with the commonwealth government. Just because someone makes assertions in the newspaper about some behaviour and how those things were carried out — Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. Cook interjected. Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I will bet that the union member who jumps up and down and pulls the member’s strings is the same union member who is jumping up and down and putting out stories about how the contract operates. The reality is that it has a contract for managing those services. Withdrawal of Remark Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I draw your attention to what the minister just alleged about the member for Kwinana—that an outside body pulls his strings. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : People to my right are not helping the process at all at this moment. Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr M. McGOWAN : Mr Speaker, I suggest to you that that is an adverse reflection upon a member under standing order 92 and that the minister should be asked to withdraw such an assertion. The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : I am not going to instruct the Minister for Health to do so. I do not think the intention was to adversely reflect on the member for Kwinana. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Mr R.H. Cook interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Member for Kwinana, I expect that you want an answer to this question. I would like to hear an answer to the question. With the way that people on both sides of this place are acting at the moment, I am inclined to close question time. If there are further interruptions, that is what I will be doing. Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : I am afraid that it was an adverse comment about the member for Kwinana and I do withdraw. A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
A government member: But it’s accurate. Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Dr K.D. HAMES : Accuracy has nothing to do with it. This is not a question of accuracy; this is a question of the allegation that I made. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
The SPEAKER : Members, that concludes question time.
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