❓ Question regarding the impact of the Kimberley National Heritage Listing on the James Price Point LNG precinct development. Premier Barnett expresses concerns about the broad scope and potential negative impacts on various sectors.
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KIMBERLEY — NATIONAL HERITAGE LISTING
On behalf of the member for Wanneroo I would like to acknowledge the year 6 students from Banksia Grove Catholic Primary School who are sitting in the Speaker’s gallery. I refer to today’s announcement by the federal environment minister, Tony Burke, that 19 million hectares of the Kimberley region has been placed on the National Heritage List. What impact will this have on the development of the LNG precinct at James Price Point? Mr C.J. BARNETT
On behalf of the member for Wanneroo I would like to acknowledge the year 6 students from Banksia Grove Catholic Primary School who are sitting in the Speaker’s gallery. I refer to today’s announcement by the federal environment minister, Tony Burke, that 19 million hectares of the Kimberley region has been placed on the National Heritage List. What impact will this have on the development of the LNG precinct at James Price Point? Mr C.J. BARNETT
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I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I refer to today’s announcement by the federal environment minister, Tony Burke, that 19 million hectares of the Kimberley region has been placed on the National Heritage List. What impact will this have on the development of the LNG precinct at James Price Point? Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I refer to today’s announcement by the federal environment minister, Tony Burke, that 19 million hectares of the Kimberley region has been placed on the National Heritage List. What impact will this have on the development of the LNG precinct at James Price Point? Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT replied: I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I thank the member for North West for the question and for his interest in what is going on in the Kimberley. Before I answer the question, I acknowledge students from Dudley Park Primary School in the Deputy Premier’s electorate. I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I am sure members are aware that today Minister Tony Burke finally delivered a very long, lengthy and verbose—if not in florid language—determination on national — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Even Banjo Paterson got a run! What did Banjo Paterson have to do with it? He got a run in the decision! Terrific stuff. Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I assume the opposition supports the listing. Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : I support protecting the Kimberley; yes, I do. Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : For the benefit of members, this map shows the area of the Kimberley that has been included in the National Heritage listing. It covers over half the Kimberley. An area the size of the state of Victoria now has a big circle drawn around it. That is now all part of a National Heritage listing. Although the federal government has come down with this determination, which is unique in Australia—yes, we have had areas of rainforest and the Great Barrier Reef listed, but never an area the size of the state of Victoria, with towns, with Aboriginal land — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Mandurah, I formally call you to order for the first time. Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Members, can I instruct you, I know you are very enthusiastic about this particular process at the moment, but I would like to hear what the Premier has to say. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Thank you, Mr Speaker — Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P.C. Tinley interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : You will never be listed on the heritage list, I can tell you that! Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P.C. Tinley : You and Hale House! The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Willagee, I formally call you to order for the first time, along with the member for Cannington. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker — Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : We think the Minister for Emergency Services is on the heritage list! The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Leader of the Opposition, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Member for Cannington, I call you to order for the second time today. Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr M.P. Whitely interjected. The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : You will be an endangered species yourself, member for Bassendean! Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person — Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr W.J. Johnston interjected. The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Cannington, I formally call you to order for the third time today. I think you know the process by now, member for Cannington, as should everybody else in this place. I presume there are other matters in here that other members in this place might want to stay here for. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I think every fair-minded person would agree there are numerous places in the Kimberley that should be preserved and protected, and are totally appropriate to be included on the National Heritage List. Many of them of course are already on the State Heritage List, including the national parks themselves, Geikie Gorge, the rock art, and the shell mission at Beagle Bay—I could go on and on. There is no dispute about that. Indeed, the Western Australian government supported those listings. They are places known for their natural beauty, spectacular terrain, cultural and heritage values, biodiversity values and the like. No-one is disputing that, and it has been supported. To simply draw a line around an area the size of Victoria is a decision that creates immediate uncertainty. It will affect not only the mining companies, present or future, that might be there, but it will also affect small businesses, farmers, the pearling and fishing industries, and the Aboriginal communities that may want to develop a tourism business. They will all now get caught up in this. If anyone wants to do anything, there will be another group, given the nature of the place, that will probably oppose it. There will be litigation, it will go to the Federal Court and there will be a whole layer of bureaucracy. I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I will explain what it means. Now that this whole area the size of the state of Victoria has been listed, it means that anything at all—any act, anything at all that may impact on not necessarily the site itself but may impact indirectly on the values of the site, so it can either be a direct physical impact or it can be an indirect impact on the values of the site, whatever that might mean—must now be referred for assessment under the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act. Anything at all will be referred. And we can guarantee that there will be dispute about any development, any project and any business venture. Probably even national park developments will get referred—trying to build facilities, access roads, toilet blocks. We can bet our bottom dollar that they are now all going to be referred for a level of environmental approval. When National Heritage listing was brought in, did anyone, including the architects of that bill, ever suggest that it would be used in this way? It is effectively another layer of planning and another layer of bureaucracy. I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
I just want to say that this was a lazy decision. Instead of doing the scientific work to identify what should be preserved, this was a lazy decision. As will come out, much of the so-called evidence lacked scientific rigour—lacked scientific rigour. A lot of it has been based on hearsay. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : I am glad you are enthusiastic about it. But I am going to suggest to some people, including the member for Gosnells, that if they want to ask a question about this, a better way of doing it will be to get to their feet and seek the call. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The member for North West asked specifically about James Price Point. I have to say that the one bit of good news, in a sense, is that James Price Point was not included within this broad boundary. There is an identification that there may be some dinosaur tracks. There are some dinosaur imprints in the vicinity of James Price Point. They are regarded as being of low quality; indeed there are far higher quality dinosaur imprints between James Price Point and — Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. Tallentire : The science has only just started on looking at those dinosaur prints! The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Member for Gosnells, I formally call you to order for the first time today. Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : The Western Australian Museum has identified the highest quality prints; and indeed the location of them, for obvious reasons, is protected. They are not even clear prints, but to the extent that there are some dinosaur imprints, they will be preserved and protected. We accept that. But I have to make the point — Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr P. Papalia : You are the expert on that, are you? The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : No, I am not, but I can tell you what: Banjo Paterson did not know too much about the Kimberley! To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
To get back to James Price Point, I think the fact that it has not been listed removes one area of uncertainty. For James Price Point, the environment assessment is through the state Office of the Environmental Protection Authority. James Price Point was chosen out of 43 sites, principally because of its minimum impact on heritage, culture and biodiversity and the environment in general. So I think this does give some confidence of James Price Point continuing in its development. And of course Woodside, which will have the first likely project there, will itself go through a full EPA assessment for the project within the precinct, and Woodside is unlikely to make a final investment decision until the second half of next year. This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
This is a process that goes back to 2007. It has been done thoroughly, professionally and carefully. It is the right decision, and that was in a sense vindicated by James Price Point not being included in this broad heritage listing. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Thank you, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT I also note that the Curtin Detention Centre has been excluded from heritage listing. How fortunate that is for the Prime Minister today, because, as members will be aware, the High Court ruled emphatically that it is not legal to send detention people to Malaysia. And congratulations to the High Court for standing up for humanitarian principles and ruling that it is not appropriate to send unaccompanied children to Malaysia. It should be forever remembered that the Labor Party in Australia was the party that wanted to send young children by themselves to Malaysia — Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Several members interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where was the Leader of the Opposition? He comes in here and he preaches about principle, being humanitarian and caring, and I never heard him speak out. Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper interjected. Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : I did speak out in defence of children by themselves. The Leader of the Opposition did not. Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr E.S. Ripper : And so did I! Tell the truth! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Where were the Greens? Sarah Hanson-Young — The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
The SPEAKER : Premier, I do not necessarily know that the question asked requires this information. I am going to give you some opportunity to conclude this question in a moment, but I am formally going to call the member for Willagee for the second time today while I do so. Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I conclude, but I just make the point that it lacks any sense of humanity to send unaccompanied children to a third country, Malaysia in this case. And it is to the eternal shame of the Labor Party that it supported it. It is to your eternal shame. You did not have the courage of your conviction to stand up for those children. You did not have the courage of your conviction to criticise the Prime Minister. You lacked courage when it mattered.
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