❓ Dr Hames questions the Minister for Health about a perceived crisis in WA hospitals, referencing a previous statement by Geoff Gallop. The Minister's initial response is evasive and focuses on internal opposition party dynamics before eventually agreeing with Gallop's statement.
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HEALTH SYSTEM
I hope there will be a less histrionic answer to this question. I remind the minister of a speech given by his former leader Geoff Gallop, I think at a campaign launch, in which he said - When doctors and nurses are forced into revolt over the management of our hospitals, that is a crisis . . . When ambulances are forced to drive the streets of Perth to find an emergency ward that can accept patients, that is a crisis. (1) Given that doctors and nurses are in revolt over the management of hospitals and have actually said that people are dying because of the way hospitals are run, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop was right - that hospitals are in crisis? (2) Given that on Monday up to 15 ambulances were forced to queue outside hospitals because emergency wards could not accept patients, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop is right in saying that our hospitals are in crisis? (3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY
I hope there will be a less histrionic answer to this question. I remind the minister of a speech given by his former leader Geoff Gallop, I think at a campaign launch, in which he said - When doctors and nurses are forced into revolt over the management of our hospitals, that is a crisis . . . When ambulances are forced to drive the streets of Perth to find an emergency ward that can accept patients, that is a crisis. (1) Given that doctors and nurses are in revolt over the management of hospitals and have actually said that people are dying because of the way hospitals are run, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop was right - that hospitals are in crisis? (2) Given that on Monday up to 15 ambulances were forced to queue outside hospitals because emergency wards could not accept patients, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop is right in saying that our hospitals are in crisis? (3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY
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(1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
When ambulances are forced to drive the streets of Perth to find an emergency ward that can accept patients, that is a crisis.
(2) Given that on Monday up to 15 ambulances were forced to queue outside hospitals because emergency wards could not accept patients, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop is right in saying that our hospitals are in crisis? (3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
(3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
(1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
When ambulances are forced to drive the streets of Perth to find an emergency ward that can accept patients, that is a crisis.
(2) Given that on Monday up to 15 ambulances were forced to queue outside hospitals because emergency wards could not accept patients, does the minister concede that Dr Gallop is right in saying that our hospitals are in crisis? (3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
(3) If this is not a crisis, is it a meltdown? Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY replied: (1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
(1)-(3) Does the member for Dawesville trust the member for Vasse? I do not think he does. He has a few more brains than most of his colleagues, and I do not think he should trust the member for Vasse at all. The member for Vasse will be setting something of a record in knifing two leaders as deputy in his first term in Parliament. That is an enviable record, not likely to be repeated ever again. Point of Order Dr K.D. HAMES : I make the same point of order that has been made two or three times before, about relevance. The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
The SPEAKER : Usually the Minister for Health is particularly relevant in his answers. I agree that he has drifted a little. Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I will drift back to the question then, Mr Speaker. Questions Without Notice Resumed Dr K.D. Hames : Do you remember the speech? Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : I remember it well, and what a great leader he was! Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr M.J. Cowper : Do you trust him? Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Mr J.A. McGINTY : Absolutely, unlike members opposite, who cannot trust each other, because they are out there sharpening their knives all the time, and cutting each other to pieces. The member for Warren-Blackwood is an honourable man, and he is about to be knifed. We all know that, and members opposite know that, and I think it is very sad. That was in response to an interjection, Mr Speaker. Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
Dr Gallop was a great Premier and a man of great vision, and I agree with what he said.
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