❓ Question regarding Minister Bowler's stance on Premier's directive about Brian Burke and Julian Grill, and any interactions with them. Bowler affirms support for the directive but admits to social contact with Grill, with Premier's awareness.
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I refer to Brian Burke’s influence as a Labor Party powerbroker and to the Premier’s directive of 2003 forbidding ministers and their staff from talking with either Brian Burke or Julian Grill. I remind the minister of his statement in the Kalgoorlie Miner on 14 April 2003: “You can’t have a separate rule for two West Australians. It’s not as if they’re convicted murderers.” (1) Does the minister still oppose the Premier’s directive about Messrs Burke and Grill? (2) Since he has been the minister, has he or any of his staff talked with, met with or had any other dealings with Messrs Burke or Grill? Mr J.J.M. BOWLER
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(1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(1) Does the minister still oppose the Premier’s directive about Messrs Burke and Grill? (2) Since he has been the minister, has he or any of his staff talked with, met with or had any other dealings with Messrs Burke or Grill? Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(2) Since he has been the minister, has he or any of his staff talked with, met with or had any other dealings with Messrs Burke or Grill? Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(1) Does the minister still oppose the Premier’s directive about Messrs Burke and Grill? (2) Since he has been the minister, has he or any of his staff talked with, met with or had any other dealings with Messrs Burke or Grill? Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(2) Since he has been the minister, has he or any of his staff talked with, met with or had any other dealings with Messrs Burke or Grill? Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER replied: (1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
(1)-(2) Is that the member for Bunbury’s first question to me this year? Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : I think it is, and on the last sitting day. I thought I would get through the whole year - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
The SPEAKER : I call the Deputy Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
Mr J.J.M. BOWLER : Congratulations. I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
I support the Premier’s policy on the people whom ministers should and should not see, and I have done since I became a minister in early February. Also, the Premier knows that I am a friend of Julian Grill’s and that I meet with Mr Grill when he comes to Kalgoorlie-Boulder or when I occasionally go to see Julian Grill as a friend. I will continue to do that, at the direction of the Premier, who advised me that, although it is a bit of a conflict in some way: “You are a close friend of Julian’s. He was your predecessor and he worked on your campaign and, therefore, I expect that you will meet Julian and his wife, who have remained friends of yours since the election.” They will remain friends of mine and I will continue to meet with them. It is not a contradiction of the Premier’s policy, because I have not met Julian Grill in my capacity as a minister. I have not met Brian Burke since I became a minister. That is the fact of the matter. However, if I do run into Brian Burke in the course of social interaction or at Julian Grill’s place one day in the future, I will say hello to him and stay there and talk to him.
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