❓ Mr. Birney questions Minister MacTiernan's rezoning decision regarding the Plunkett family's land, alleging a conflict of interest due to a past neighborhood dispute. The Minister acknowledges a past dispute but denies it influences her decision.
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Mr M.J. BIRNEY : My question is directed to the Minister for Planning and Infrastructure. Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : He’s got a theme and it’s my turn. I’m the theme for the day. Mr M.J. BIRNEY : I think the minister is going to like this. I refer to the minister’s dogged determination to rezone the Plunkett family land south of Moore River from urban to rural, which will cost the Plunkett family in excess of $5 million. (1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN
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(1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : He’s got a theme and it’s my turn. I’m the theme for the day. Mr M.J. BIRNEY : I think the minister is going to like this. I refer to the minister’s dogged determination to rezone the Plunkett family land south of Moore River from urban to rural, which will cost the Plunkett family in excess of $5 million. (1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. BIRNEY : I think the minister is going to like this. I refer to the minister’s dogged determination to rezone the Plunkett family land south of Moore River from urban to rural, which will cost the Plunkett family in excess of $5 million. (1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTiernan : He’s got a theme and it’s my turn. I’m the theme for the day. Mr M.J. BIRNEY : I think the minister is going to like this. I refer to the minister’s dogged determination to rezone the Plunkett family land south of Moore River from urban to rural, which will cost the Plunkett family in excess of $5 million. (1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. BIRNEY : I think the minister is going to like this. I refer to the minister’s dogged determination to rezone the Plunkett family land south of Moore River from urban to rural, which will cost the Plunkett family in excess of $5 million. (1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(1) Can the Minister confirm that this is the same Plunkett family that was the minister’s neighbour when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(2) Can the minister confirm that over a long period the minister was locked in a bitter neighbourhood dispute with the Plunketts when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate? (3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(3) Can the minister confirm that she failed in her attempt to get adverse possession of the Plunkett family’s land when she lived in Harold Street, Highgate, and she was forced to pay the Plunketts’ legal costs? (4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(4) If yes, can the minister prove that her dogged determination to rezone the Plunketts’ land in Moore River is not simply payback for the Plunketts after years of a bitter neighbourhood dispute? Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN replied: (1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
(1)-(4) It is true that the Plunketts owned a factory that adjoined the property that I lived in. Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : Conflict of interest. You shouldn’t be listening to this appeal. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the second time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I do not know whether or not it is the same configuration of company. Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : It is the same person. The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time and urge members that if they wish to be thrown out, they should continue to interject on the minister when she is answering a question that attacks her integrity. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Thank you, Mr Speaker. I do not recall a dispute about adverse possession. There may have been, but it is certainly not something that I recall. Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer and you cannot recall! The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Leschenault to order for the first time. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I recall discussions about factory noise on the weekends due to it operating on Saturdays and Sundays. That is my recollection of that being a dispute. I do not believe it was a long and bitter dispute. I believe that the factory was closed down some time in the early 1980s. We are talking about something that happened about 20 years ago. This has absolutely nothing to do with the development issue whatsoever. Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Several opposition members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I am amazed that members are so completely unaware of the strength of community feeling about what is being proposed for Moore River. This is not something we dreamt up. As I said, the government is not trying to stop the Plunkett family having a successful development. Frankly, I would love to see them have a successful development and for the matter to be resolved. Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms S.E. Walker interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Nedlands! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : Moore River is an exquisite area, and there is an amazing amount of biodiversity in that area. When the State Administrative Tribunal makes a recommendation, I will make it public. Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : You should not be hearing it. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : I have no difficulty whatsoever with making that recommendation public and ensuring that any decision that I make takes into account - Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Dr K.D. Hames interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
The SPEAKER : Order, member for Dawesville! Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : It is true that there was a dispute about noise. As I said, my recollection is that it occurred about 20 years ago. Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Several opposition members interjected. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : There may well have been, I do not recall it - Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr M.J. Birney : Try 13 years ago. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : The dispute about noise occurred 13 years ago. I cannot remember precisely when this - Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Mr D.F. Barron-Sullivan : You are a lawyer, they were your neighbours and it is a case of adverse possession. Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
Ms A.J.G. MacTIERNAN : This issue affects hundreds of thousands of Western Australians. I have not created the issue. There is a great deal of community concern about it.
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