Shadow Minister Ravlich questions the Mental Health Minister Morton on the Mental Health 2020 plan, criticising it for lacking new initiatives and funding despite the cost of its development. Minister Morton defends the plan, highlighting new services and accusing Ravlich of misunderstanding.

AnsweredQoN 893Legislative Council
Asked
19 October 2011
Portfolio
Mental Health

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MENTAL HEALTH 2020 STRATEGIC PLAN
I refer to the minister’s ministerial statement on Mental Health 2020. (1) Can the minister explain why the Mental Health 2020 plan contains no new initiatives and has no new money attached to it? (2) Why did the minister commission PricewaterhouseCoopers to develop a strategic plan for mental health, at a cost of $493 000, given that this plan contains no new announcements and has no new money attached to it? (3) Given the disappointment by the mental health sector in this strategic plan, will the minister give an undertaking to stop the spin and start addressing those issues that are of real concern to the sector; and, if not, why not? Hon HELEN MORTON

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(1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
(1) Can the minister explain why the Mental Health 2020 plan contains no new initiatives and has no new money attached to it? (2) Why did the minister commission PricewaterhouseCoopers to develop a strategic plan for mental health, at a cost of $493 000, given that this plan contains no new announcements and has no new money attached to it? (3) Given the disappointment by the mental health sector in this strategic plan, will the minister give an undertaking to stop the spin and start addressing those issues that are of real concern to the sector; and, if not, why not? Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
(2) Why did the minister commission PricewaterhouseCoopers to develop a strategic plan for mental health, at a cost of $493 000, given that this plan contains no new announcements and has no new money attached to it? (3) Given the disappointment by the mental health sector in this strategic plan, will the minister give an undertaking to stop the spin and start addressing those issues that are of real concern to the sector; and, if not, why not? Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
(3) Given the disappointment by the mental health sector in this strategic plan, will the minister give an undertaking to stop the spin and start addressing those issues that are of real concern to the sector; and, if not, why not? Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon HELEN MORTON replied: (1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
(1)–(3) I was unaware that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich was writing dorothy dixers for the Liberal Party, but I am so glad that she is! Thank you so much for the opportunity to speak on this initiative! If I had asked anybody to write it for me — Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I heard about your performance at the conference! Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon HELEN MORTON : Did you? It was good! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : You’ll need to ask the media that. That’s not what I heard. It was a real disgrace. Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon HELEN MORTON : The real concern that I have, as I said on radio, is that anybody who cannot see what is different or what is new in this plan has no knowledge of what currently exists or what is old. The greatest concerns that I have are, firstly, that the member would go on radio and suggest there is nothing new in this plan; and, secondly, that she would yet again raise it in this place. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich does herself a major disservice in asking this question. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Don’t be so patronising! Answer the question! Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon HELEN MORTON : I am not being patronising. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich just needs to read the document and understand the document. The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
The PRESIDENT : Order! Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : Sorry, Mr President. The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
The PRESIDENT : Yes, you should be. Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich : I am. The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
The PRESIDENT : And, minister, could you address your comments through the Chair. Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.
Hon HELEN MORTON : I shall, Mr President, because there is so much to say, and I do not think that the quarter of an hour that is remaining in question time will do service to the question that Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has asked. I would love to have a better opportunity, perhaps in members’ statements, to speak about that, except that I will not be here. However, I will just pick out a couple of issues. Has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen person-centred services in the form of individualised funding in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia self-directed services in mental health? Has she ever seen anywhere in Western Australia other services that are provided wholly and solely whereby the funding is portable with the individual wherever they go in the state? Her answer to that is going to be no. But because Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich has no understanding of how mental health services currently operate in this state, she will not understand that this is new and this is different. As another example, has Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich ever seen anywhere in Western Australia transitional facilities? Has she ever seen in the budget, before this year, funding for transitional facilities? I do not think Hon Ljiljanna Ravlich even understands what transitional facilities are, let alone knows that we have already funded one such facility in Joondalup, one in Rockingham and one in Broome, and we have put in funding submissions for two in the Pilbara, one in Esperance and one in Northam. But this member continues to say that nothing new is happening in mental health. It is a sad indictment for the people of Western Australia when we have an opposition that has absolutely no understanding of what is currently happening in mental health, let alone what is new and where the new directions are going.

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