Hon Simon O'Brien questions the Minister for Education and Training about declining public school enrolments and seeks data visualization. The Minister deflects blame to federal funding policies and accuses the opposition of aiming to privatize education.

AnsweredQoN 848Legislative Council
Asked
27 September 2006
Portfolio
Education and Training

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NON-GOVERNMENT SCHOOLS - INCREASE IN ENROLMENTS
I have a question without notice about whether the minister has some graphs. (1) Does the minister have a graph that shows that a greater number of students than ever before are choosing to enrol at non-government schools instead of schools run by her department? (2) Does the minister have a graph that shows that a greater proportion of students than was hitherto the case are choosing to enrol at non-government schools rather than schools run by her department? (3) Does the minister take responsibility for what is occurring under her watch with the outflow of student numbers from government schools to non-government schools; and how does she explain the reason that this is occurring? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH

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I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
(1) Does the minister have a graph that shows that a greater number of students than ever before are choosing to enrol at non-government schools instead of schools run by her department? (2) Does the minister have a graph that shows that a greater proportion of students than was hitherto the case are choosing to enrol at non-government schools rather than schools run by her department? (3) Does the minister take responsibility for what is occurring under her watch with the outflow of student numbers from government schools to non-government schools; and how does she explain the reason that this is occurring? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
(2) Does the minister have a graph that shows that a greater proportion of students than was hitherto the case are choosing to enrol at non-government schools rather than schools run by her department? (3) Does the minister take responsibility for what is occurring under her watch with the outflow of student numbers from government schools to non-government schools; and how does she explain the reason that this is occurring? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
(3) Does the minister take responsibility for what is occurring under her watch with the outflow of student numbers from government schools to non-government schools; and how does she explain the reason that this is occurring? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH replied: I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
I thank the member very much. (1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
(1)-(3) It is occurring directly as a result of federal government - Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon Simon O’Brien : Do you have a graph? Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : No, but I am happy to get one made up. The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
The PRESIDENT : Hon Simon O’Brien has asked a question. It is customary when a person, particularly a member of this house, asks a question, for that person to listen to the answer before commencing to interject. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I thank you for that, Mr President. I do not have that graph with me. However, I have a graph, which I am holding up for the benefit of members, that indicates the percentages in total of the traditional trades in training as at March. Members can see that Western Australia is way ahead of the other states. I have another graph with me that indicates the number of apprentices in training in Western Australia from 1996 to 2000. That indicates how much Labor has increased the number of apprentices since it came to power. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : I do have lots of graphs. I also have some nice pictorial representations of all the new schools that the government is building. I do not have the specific graph requested by Hon Simon O’Brien. but I could easily have one drawn up. With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
With regard to the second part of the question, no, I do not have any graphs and I have not made one up, but I could. More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
More interesting is the third part of the question asked by the member relating to the alleged outflow of students in a move from public to private schools. Part of that outflow must be attributed to the running down of public education by the conservative federal government. Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Several members interjected. Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon Simon O’Brien interjected. Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : Exactly right, honourable member! The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
The funding policies of the federal government ensure that there is inequitable funding which, in turn, ensures that public schools come out second best in the funding arrangements of all schools. Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Several members interjected. The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
The PRESIDENT : Order, members! Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.
Hon LJILJANNA RAVLICH : If Hon Simon O’Brien wanted to do the right thing by public education in this state, he would write to Minister Bishop telling her to give public education a fair go, because everything in the federal government policy on education is all about moving students from the public sector to the private sector. I will tell the house what the hidden agenda is: it is to basically decimate the public school education system and have all parents pay for the education of their children. That is the agenda. That is where the conservatives are at. Quite frankly, they do not want a public education system. They want a fully funded private education system under the control of the federal government.

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