Minister Kobelke criticizes the Liberal Party's disallowance of water license management fees, arguing it will delay water reform and contradicts the National Water Initiative's cost recovery requirements. He accuses the opposition of lacking understanding and leadership on water security issues.

AnsweredQoN 188Legislative Assembly
Asked
10 April 2008
Portfolio
Water Resources

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WATER LICENCE MANAGEMENT FEES — DISALLOWANCE
Given the work being done to reform water management and to meet the requirements of the National Water Initiative, what will the impact be of the Liberal Party’s disallowance of the regulations providing for water licence management fees? Mr J.C. KOBELKE

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I thank the member for the question. Clearly, the disallowance of the regulations will delay the water reform in this state, which is very disappointing, but I suppose one comes to expect such things from the Liberal opposition — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE replied: I thank the member for the question. Clearly, the disallowance of the regulations will delay the water reform in this state, which is very disappointing, but I suppose one comes to expect such things from the Liberal opposition — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
I thank the member for the question. Clearly, the disallowance of the regulations will delay the water reform in this state, which is very disappointing, but I suppose one comes to expect such things from the Liberal opposition — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
The SPEAKER : Order! Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the first time. Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Mr P.D. Omodei interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Warren-Blackwood to order for the second time. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : We have a Liberal opposition that cannot grasp the big issues, cannot create policies and cannot carry through on hard decisions that will deliver outcomes that will greatly benefit the people of Western Australia. When Premier Gallop in 2001 raised the whole issue of a drying climate and the issues we faced with water, Liberal members said that there was no problem, that it was being overstated and that we did not have to do anything. This government set an agenda of water reform to provide water security for the people of Western Australia—for our irrigators, businesspeople and householders. This disallowance is another very clear example of the fact that the Liberal Party does not understand the problems and has no solution for them. It was the Liberal Party that urged this government to sign up to the National Water Initiative. It has been absolutely clear from day one that the National Water Initiative requires us to implement cost recovery when we provide services to people who have water bores and dams. There is absolutely no doubt about that. The Liberal Party was telling us we should sign up to the NWI. It is now saying that we should not do all the things that we are required to do under the NWI just yet. The Liberal Party cannot take a position of substance and stick to it. We have signed up to the National Water Initiative. That requires that we implement cost recovery. The disallowance does away with a fairly reasonable level of cost recovery. That means we are now the only state in Australia that does not have cost recovery as required by the National Water Initiative. Even more important than that, a rigorous licensing system, with annual fees, is fundamental to — Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Capel. Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Mr J.C. KOBELKE : — water reform and to providing greater security to our irrigators and businesses in this state. These people have put huge amounts of their own money into developing their dams, their bores, their irrigation systems and their businesses. However, with our changing climate, that is now at risk. We have a ridiculous Liberal opposition that will do nothing to help those people. Members of the opposition will take the plea of one person who has to pay this fee, but who wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more, and say that is a good idea! That is their view. They will back one little group that wants to pay less and wants someone else to pay more! That is not a solution to dealing with the changing climate and the water issues in this state. This government is committed to reform and to providing greater security. The Liberal opposition has its head in the sand. It simply wants to play silly games and show no leadership on this issue. Members opposite should be absolutely disgusted with themselves. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.
The SPEAKER : Order! I call to order the member for Roe and the member for Stirling.

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