❓ Question regarding ASG contract awarded by the Office of Shared Services and the involvement of Brian Burke and Julian Grill. The Treasurer's response deflects by attacking the questioner's credibility, before stating he had no involvement and no evidence of wrongdoing.
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ASG (ASIA PACIFIC) PTY LTD - OFFICE OF SHARED SERVICES CONTRACT
I refer to the startling revelation that Brian Burke and Julian Grill represented ASG in its ultimately successful bid for an $88 million contract with the Office of Shared Services, the faltering centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms. (1) Who in the public service, and who in the government, were Brian Burke and Julian Grill in contact with regarding the ASG bid? (2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER
I refer to the startling revelation that Brian Burke and Julian Grill represented ASG in its ultimately successful bid for an $88 million contract with the Office of Shared Services, the faltering centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms. (1) Who in the public service, and who in the government, were Brian Burke and Julian Grill in contact with regarding the ASG bid? (2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER
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(1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(1) Who in the public service, and who in the government, were Brian Burke and Julian Grill in contact with regarding the ASG bid? (2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(1) Who in the public service, and who in the government, were Brian Burke and Julian Grill in contact with regarding the ASG bid? (2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(2) Given the importance the Treasurer has placed on the shared services experiment, how could the Treasurer not know that these two disgraced lobbyists were so heavily involved in the centrepiece of the Treasurer’s public sector reforms? Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER replied: (1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
(1)-(2) The member for Vasse knows all about disgraced lobbyists! He meets them in the car park of Parliament House and has meetings with them, and concocts his evidence before he goes to the Corruption and Crime Commission to give that evidence! So, what a laugh that he should ask that question! I must say that I have been waiting all question time for the member for Vasse to ask that question, because he just does not have any credibility on this issue. The member for Vasse should have been sacked, Leader of the Opposition, from his position on the front bench because of his disgraceful conversations with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House. The Commodore confidante, the Ford fandango - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! I call the member for Murray to order for the second time. Point of Order Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I refer to relevance. If a member asks a question, it requires an answer. It does not require - nor should it be tolerated - that the Treasurer should get up and in a pompous way abuse members opposite. I ask you, Mr Speaker, to require ministers - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order, members! Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr C.J. BARNETT : Mr Speaker, I respectfully ask you to require ministers to answer questions, or sit them down. The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : Order! There is no point of order. Members on my left or my right often do not like the answers they get. That is a perennial problem. Questions without Notice Resumed Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Cottesloe would know all about pomposity. Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr T. Buswell interjected. Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : The member for Vasse tries to fight back! The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting with Noel Crichton-Browne in the car park of Parliament House! People will always ask: why did the member for Vasse meet with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park? Why did they not meet in an office? Why did they not conduct their business by telephone? Why did they conduct their business in that way? The member for Vasse’s credibility will never recover from that meeting. The member for Vasse’s reputation for integrity will also never recover from what he did to the member for Kalgoorlie. I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
I turn now to the answer, because even though the questioner has no credibility, I do think that the answer is one that ought to be given. I learnt yesterday, when journalists asked about - Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the first time and the Leader of the Opposition to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : When journalists asked questions yesterday, I learnt that ASG had apparently engaged Mr Burke and Mr Grill in some sort of capacity. Members should understand how tendering works in the government. Tendering is done at arm’s length from ministers. I had nothing to do with the tender process. Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Several members interjected. The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
The SPEAKER : I call the member for Cottesloe to order for the second time and the member for Vasse to order for the third time. Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
Mr E.S. RIPPER : I had nothing to do with the tender process, which ultimately saw ASG - in a consortium that includes IBM - win that particular contract. That was done at arm’s length by the public service. I have no evidence that Mr Burke or Mr Grill was involved in the tender process in any way. I have no evidence of any complaint about the tender process. I can find no-one in the public service who spoke to Mr Burke or Mr Grill about this matter. I simply say to members of the opposition: it is all very well to put a name into the public debate, but if they do not have a shred of evidence or a connection between the activities of that person and the awarding of the contract, they simply lack credibility, as I would expect, given the member for Vasse’s previous dealings with Noel Crichton-Browne in a car in the car park, concocting evidence with a person of interest in a corruption inquiry.
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