❓ Question concerns the Minister's policy on local government ward variations and whether the Western Australian Municipal Association (WAMA) was consulted. The Minister's response is somewhat evasive and includes personal attacks.
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I refer the minister to his answer to my question yesterday in which he advised of his decision to limit variations in local government wards to 10 per cent. (1) Has the minister consulted the Western Australian Municipal Association in the development of this policy? (2) If he has, is it supportive of this policy? (3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS
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(1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(1) Has the minister consulted the Western Australian Municipal Association in the development of this policy? (2) If he has, is it supportive of this policy? (3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(2) If he has, is it supportive of this policy? (3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(1) Has the minister consulted the Western Australian Municipal Association in the development of this policy? (2) If he has, is it supportive of this policy? (3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(2) If he has, is it supportive of this policy? (3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(3) If not, does that suggest that WAMA’s view on this matter is irrelevant? (4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(4) Is the minister’s policy a payback to the Country Shires Council of Australia for its unanimous opposition to the Government’s one vote, one value proposals for the state electoral system? Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS replied: (1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
(1)-(4) In answer to the last part of the question, no. In the period I have been the minister responsible for local government I have not altered the policy - the policy predates my arrival in that portfolio. I do not see any need to vary the policy. I am always happy to discuss these matters with the Western Australian Local Government Association, as it is now called. The Leader of the Opposition should get up to speed. Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Several members interjected. Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: We must get ahead of the game. Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: You always were. Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: The Leader of the Opposition should because he is like a dinosaur. He should keep up with the democratic tradition that is now emerging in this country. Eventually people like him will want to embrace it - or to move on. Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Just answer the question. Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: Local government organisations can always talk to me about this policy. Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Are you making the policy? You told us yesterday that you have a new position and I am asking whether you have consulted. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I have spoken with representatives of local government and I have made it clear that I see no reason to change the existing policy, other than to suggest a plus or minus 10 per cent variation, which is a figure of a different order to that mentioned by the leader. Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: I referred to a variation. Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: It is plus or minus 10 per cent, which produces a different total. Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: Congratulations! Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I am glad the leader has worked that out. Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon N.F. Moore: You said 10 per cent yesterday. Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: I said plus or minus 10 per cent. The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
The PRESIDENT: Order! Members are waiting to ask questions. Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
Hon TOM STEPHENS: If people are concerned about how this will play out, they should put up the argument.
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